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New to the Evolver

New to the Evolver

2006-01-13 by taco6

Hello.  I have figured out a little about the Evolver.  I am still confused though.  Basically I 
start with the basic patch (OS 3, Bank B, patch 128) and make Osc 1 and Osc 2 a triangle 
or saw wave, then I put the frequency of each to say C3.  However, once I turn the VCA 
up...it just drones.  Ok, so I let it drone...because I am learning and am happy to hear 
something I actually programmed...or rather made make a noise.  Then I go to learn the 
sequencer...which I can get to run but I have no idea how to program like a baseline using 
those 1-100 values.  Basically I am used to programming actual notes (a, b, c d, e, etc)  
instead of values.  I never used a CV style sequencer.   What do these values represent?  I 
understand the reset and off options...but not the values 1-100.  I put the sequencer 
destination to Osc All Frequency and it changes the tone / pitch a bit...but I want to be 
able to understand it and control it.  

So basically, I need to understand how to stop it from droning all the time..but also play 
when I hit the sequencer start button.  (I have only figured out the turning down the VCA 
stops it from droning lol).  Then I need to understand how to program actual notes using 
the sequencer.  

I have to admit, this is the hardest synth I have ever used... probably due to my 
inexperience with anything but simple synths.  However, I don;t want to give up...because 
knowing this machine will ultimately be rewarding.  

Any help would be perfect.  Thanks.  John

Re: [Evolver] New to the Evolver

2006-01-13 by James Elliott

Hi!
Basically the 0-100 numbers are relative values as far as I understand. For example 0 represents "off" or "minimum" or "0<100" depending what parameter you are programming. Take frequency (pitch/note) for example, 0 represents low pitch/note whereas 100 represents a high frequency. For the case of ATTACK, 0 represents less then a second (a value in milliseconds), whereas 100 represents many seconds. I don't know if there is any documentation that specifies exactly what the numbers represent, but it really doesn't matter for most cases as long as you understand that it is simply a relative value.
As for the VCA, if you crank the VCA all of the way up you are essentially telling the synth to play the patch at full volume all of the time regardless of what stage the VCA envelope generator is at - regardless of time. In other words, "from the moment I select this patch, play at full program volume until I change to a different patch." If you want to actually "play" the synth by using some kind of triggering mechanism, like the sequencer, you should probably turn the VCA down and then try using the VCA Envelope Generator to control the program volume - like you would on most other synths. Meaning, during the ATTACK stage, turn the volume up towards peak volume over this time period, during the DECAY stage start turning down the volume, and etc... A snare drum for example as a minimum attack period (instant full volume), no decay, no sustain, but a slightly drawn out release period (volume drops to 0 after about a quarter of a second after you strike the drum).
I probably didn't answer your questions completely, but hopefully that shed some light on your concerns.
-Jim

taco6 wrote:
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Hello. I have figured out a little about the Evolver. I am still confused though. Basically I
start with the basic patch (OS 3, Bank B, patch 128) and make Osc 1 and Osc 2 a triangle
or saw wave, then I put the frequency of each to say C3. However, once I turn the VCA
up...it just drones. Ok, so I let it drone...because I am learning and am happy to hear
something I actually programmed...or rather made make a noise. Then I go to learn the
sequencer...which I can get to run but I have no idea how to program like a baseline using
those 1-100 values. Basically I am used to programming actual notes (a, b, c d, e, etc)
instead of values. I never used a CV style sequencer. What do these values represent? I
understand the reset and off options...but not the values 1-100. I put the sequencer
destination to Osc All Frequency and it changes the tone / pitch a bit...but I want to be
able to understand it and control it.

So basically, I need to understand how to stop it from droning all the time..but also play
when I hit the sequencer start button. (I have only figured out the turning down the VCA
stops it from droning lol). Then I need to understand how to program actual notes using
the sequencer.

I have to admit, this is the hardest synth I have ever used... probably due to my
inexperience with anything but simple synths. However, I don;t want to give up...because
knowing this machine will ultimately be rewarding.

Any help would be perfect. Thanks. John




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Re: [Evolver] New to the Evolver

2006-01-14 by jontu

Hi,

The sequencer steps correspond to quarter-notes. This means that 24
steps is an octave. If C is value 0, then D is value 4. However, the
final note that you hear is dependant on your oscillator tuning value
and possible Transpose settings.

Go to the Yahoo group downloads page and get Anu Kirk's brilliant "The
Definiteve Guide to Evolver", on it's over 100 pages of useful info
there is also a table of sequencer values relative to common notes.

sunny days,

.jon


2006/1/13, James Elliott <johans121@...>:
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>
> Hi!
>
> Basically the 0-100 numbers are relative values as far as I understand. For
> example 0 represents "off" or "minimum" or "0<100" depending what parameter
> you are programming. Take frequency (pitch/note) for example, 0 represents
> low pitch/note whereas 100 represents a high frequency. For the case of
> ATTACK, 0 represents less then a second (a value in milliseconds), whereas
> 100 represents many seconds. I don't know if there is any documentation that
> specifies exactly what the numbers represent, but it really doesn't matter
> for most cases as long as you understand that it is simply a relative value.
>
> As for the VCA, if you crank the VCA all of the way up you are essentially
> telling the synth to play the patch at full volume all of the time
> regardless of what stage the VCA envelope generator is at - regardless of
> time. In other words, "from the moment I select this patch, play at full
> program volume until I change to a different patch." If you want to actually
> "play" the synth by using some kind of triggering mechanism, like the
> sequencer, you should probably turn the VCA down and then try using the VCA
> Envelope Generator to control the program volume - like you would on most
> other synths. Meaning, during the ATTACK stage, turn the volume up towards
> peak volume over this time period, during the DECAY stage start turning down
> the volume, and etc... A snare drum for example as a minimum attack period
> (instant full volume), no decay, no sustain, but a slightly drawn out
> release period (volume drops to 0 after about a quarter of a second after
> you strike the drum).
>
> I probably didn't answer your questions completely, but hopefully that shed
> some light on your concerns.
>
> -Jim
>
> taco6 <taco6@...> wrote:
> Hello.  I have figured out a little about the Evolver.  I am still confused
> though.  Basically I
> start with the basic patch (OS 3, Bank B, patch 128) and make Osc 1 and Osc
> 2 a triangle
> or saw wave, then I put the frequency of each to say C3.  However, once I
> turn the VCA
> up...it just drones.  Ok, so I let it drone...because I am learning and am
> happy to hear
> something I actually programmed...or rather made make a noise.  Then I go to
> learn the
> sequencer...which I can get to run but I have no idea how to program like a
> baseline using
> those 1-100 values.  Basically I am used to programming actual notes (a, b,
> c d, e, etc)
> instead of values.  I never used a CV style sequencer.   What do these
> values represent?  I
> understand the reset and off options...but not the values 1-100.  I put the
> sequencer
> destination to Osc All Frequency and it changes the tone / pitch a bit...but
> I want to be
> able to understand it and control it.
>
> So basically, I need to understand how to stop it from droning all the
> time..but also play
> when I hit the sequencer start button.  (I have only figured out the turning
> down the VCA
> stops it from droning lol).  Then I need to understand how to program actual
> notes using
> the sequencer.
>
> I have to admit, this is the hardest synth I have ever used... probably due
> to my
> inexperience with anything but simple synths.  However, I don;t want to give
> up...because
> knowing this machine will ultimately be rewarding.
>
> Any help would be perfect.  Thanks.  John
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Evolver] New to the Evolver

2006-01-14 by John Gellings

That is the info I needed.  Thank you.  I have the
guide...but it didn't mention that info...that I could
find.  

--- jontu <pakana@...> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The sequencer steps correspond to quarter-notes.
> This means that 24
> steps is an octave. If C is value 0, then D is value
> 4. However, the
> final note that you hear is dependant on your
> oscillator tuning value
> and possible Transpose settings.
> 
> Go to the Yahoo group downloads page and get Anu
> Kirk's brilliant "The
> Definiteve Guide to Evolver", on it's over 100 pages
> of useful info
> there is also a table of sequencer values relative
> to common notes.
> 
> sunny days,
> 
> .jon
> 
> 
> 2006/1/13, James Elliott <johans121@...>:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Basically the 0-100 numbers are relative values as
> far as I understand. For
> > example 0 represents "off" or "minimum" or "0<100"
> depending what parameter
> > you are programming. Take frequency (pitch/note)
> for example, 0 represents
> > low pitch/note whereas 100 represents a high
> frequency. For the case of
> > ATTACK, 0 represents less then a second (a value
> in milliseconds), whereas
> > 100 represents many seconds. I don't know if there
> is any documentation that
> > specifies exactly what the numbers represent, but
> it really doesn't matter
> > for most cases as long as you understand that it
> is simply a relative value.
> >
> > As for the VCA, if you crank the VCA all of the
> way up you are essentially
> > telling the synth to play the patch at full volume
> all of the time
> > regardless of what stage the VCA envelope
> generator is at - regardless of
> > time. In other words, "from the moment I select
> this patch, play at full
> > program volume until I change to a different
> patch." If you want to actually
> > "play" the synth by using some kind of triggering
> mechanism, like the
> > sequencer, you should probably turn the VCA down
> and then try using the VCA
> > Envelope Generator to control the program volume -
> like you would on most
> > other synths. Meaning, during the ATTACK stage,
> turn the volume up towards
> > peak volume over this time period, during the
> DECAY stage start turning down
> > the volume, and etc... A snare drum for example as
> a minimum attack period
> > (instant full volume), no decay, no sustain, but a
> slightly drawn out
> > release period (volume drops to 0 after about a
> quarter of a second after
> > you strike the drum).
> >
> > I probably didn't answer your questions
> completely, but hopefully that shed
> > some light on your concerns.
> >
> > -Jim
> >
> > taco6 <taco6@...> wrote:
> > Hello.  I have figured out a little about the
> Evolver.  I am still confused
> > though.  Basically I
> > start with the basic patch (OS 3, Bank B, patch
> 128) and make Osc 1 and Osc
> > 2 a triangle
> > or saw wave, then I put the frequency of each to
> say C3.  However, once I
> > turn the VCA
> > up...it just drones.  Ok, so I let it
> drone...because I am learning and am
> > happy to hear
> > something I actually programmed...or rather made
> make a noise.  Then I go to
> > learn the
> > sequencer...which I can get to run but I have no
> idea how to program like a
> > baseline using
> > those 1-100 values.  Basically I am used to
> programming actual notes (a, b,
> > c d, e, etc)
> > instead of values.  I never used a CV style
> sequencer.   What do these
> > values represent?  I
> > understand the reset and off options...but not the
> values 1-100.  I put the
> > sequencer
> > destination to Osc All Frequency and it changes
> the tone / pitch a bit...but
> > I want to be
> > able to understand it and control it.
> >
> > So basically, I need to understand how to stop it
> from droning all the
> > time..but also play
> > when I hit the sequencer start button.  (I have
> only figured out the turning
> > down the VCA
> > stops it from droning lol).  Then I need to
> understand how to program actual
> > notes using
> > the sequencer.
> >
> > I have to admit, this is the hardest synth I have
> ever used... probably due
> > to my
> > inexperience with anything but simple synths. 
> However, I don;t want to give
> > up...because
> > knowing this machine will ultimately be rewarding.
> >
> > Any help would be perfect.  Thanks.  John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  ________________________________
> > Yahoo! Photos
> >  Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get
> quality prints in your hands
> > ASAP.
> >
> >
> >  SPONSORED LINKS
> >  Electronic instrument Keyboard synthesizers
> Synthesizer music
> >  Electronic music Music sampler Electronic musical
> instrument
> >
> >  ________________________________
> >  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
> >
> >
> >  Visit your group "DSI_Evolver" on the web.
> >
> >  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> >  DSI_Evolver-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the
> Yahoo! Terms of Service.
> >
> >  ________________________________
> >
> 


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