Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

Hi Guys and Girls,  I'm working on a patch that uses ring modulation with oscillators 3&4 
levels set to zero, so only the resultant tones sound. I wanted to make a slow attack so I 
set both the LPF and VCA to very slow attack. I wanted to make it so that as I played each 
new key the attack would be slow. But what happens is that as I play each new key I get a 
sharp attack for each new note(like a bell sound). I really want to take off the attack sound 
for each noew note sounding but don't know how to do it or why it keeps sounding as if I 
have it on short attack. All of the other modulators are off or set to zero,including env. 3. 
Any ideas on how to accomplish what I'm looikng for? 
thanks a lot,
steve

silly me. You have to let the note release completely before playing again. then the slow 
attack works. sorry.


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "dhamaryder" <dhamaryder@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys and Girls,  I'm working on a patch that uses ring modulation with oscillators 
3&4 
> levels set to zero, so only the resultant tones sound. I wanted to make a slow attack so I 
> set both the LPF and VCA to very slow attack. I wanted to make it so that as I played 
each 
> new key the attack would be slow. But what happens is that as I play each new key I get 
a 
> sharp attack for each new note(like a bell sound). I really want to take off the attack 
sound 
> for each noew note sounding but don't know how to do it or why it keeps sounding as if 
I 
> have it on short attack. All of the other modulators are off or set to zero,including env. 
3. 

> Any ideas on how to accomplish what I'm looikng for? 
> thanks a lot,
> steve
>

In this case you can play around with the portamento (Glide) as well, to 
get more of a slow attack effect from note to note.

- Egan

dhamaryder wrote:

> 
> 
> silly me. You have to let the note release completely before playing 
> again. then the slow
> attack works. sorry.
> 
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>, "dhamaryder" <dhamaryder@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > Hi Guys and Girls, I'm working on a patch that uses ring modulation 
> with oscillators
> 3&4
>  > levels set to zero, so only the resultant tones sound. I wanted to 
> make a slow attack so I
>  > set both the LPF and VCA to very slow attack. I wanted to make it so 
> that as I played
> each
>  > new key the attack would be slow. But what happens is that as I play 
> each new key I get
> a
>  > sharp attack for each new note(like a bell sound). I really want to 
> take off the attack
> sound
>  > for each noew note sounding but don't know how to do it or why it 
> keeps sounding as if
> I
>  > have it on short attack. All of the other modulators are off or set 
> to zero,including env.
> 3.
>  > Any ideas on how to accomplish what I'm looikng for?
>  > thanks a lot,
>  > steve
>  >
> 
>

Sorry if you've already checked this, but is this just a matter of 
needing to change the "Key Mode" to a setting with "Retrigger", such 
that each key press retriggers the envelopes?


Ski
www.ex5tech.com


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "dhamaryder" <dhamaryder@...> 
wrote:
>
> Hi Guys and Girls,  I'm working on a patch that uses ring 
modulation with oscillators 3&4 
> levels set to zero, so only the resultant tones sound. I wanted to 
make a slow attack so I 
> set both the LPF and VCA to very slow attack. I wanted to make it 
so that as I played each 
> new key the attack would be slow. But what happens is that as I 
play each new key I get a 
> sharp attack for each new note(like a bell sound). I really want to 
take off the attack sound 
> for each noew note sounding but don't know how to do it or why it 
keeps sounding as if I 
> have it on short attack. All of the other modulators are off or set 
to zero,including env. 3. 

> Any ideas on how to accomplish what I'm looikng for? 
> thanks a lot,
> steve
>

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "ski_ex5tech" <ski@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry if you've already checked this, but is this just a matter of 
> needing to change the "Key Mode" to a setting with "Retrigger", such 
> that each key press retriggers the envelopes?

Thanks Ski,  what happens is after I play a note, since it has a long release, I have to wait 
until the note has faded out for the most part before a retriggering of the envelopes(with a 
very slow attack) will actually sound like a retriggering. Say if it has only released to 50% if 
I retrigger it the attack will start right at that 50% rather than at 0(like it would if I had let it 
fade out completely), so it sounds like a sharp attack.

OK, yeah, you're just going to have to go with a shorter release, or 
more polyphony!


Ski
www.ex5tech.com


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "dhamaryder" <dhamaryder@...> wrote:
>
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "ski_ex5tech" <ski@> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry if you've already checked this, but is this just a matter of 
> > needing to change the "Key Mode" to a setting with "Retrigger", 
such 
> > that each key press retriggers the envelopes?
> 
> Thanks Ski,  what happens is after I play a note, since it has a long 
release, I have to wait 
> until the note has faded out for the most part before a retriggering 
of the envelopes(with a 
> very slow attack) will actually sound like a retriggering. Say if it 
has only released to 50% if 
> I retrigger it the attack will start right at that 50% rather than at 
0(like it would if I had let it 
> fade out completely), so it sounds like a sharp attack.
>