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Re: Behringer vs Peavey

2007-01-02 by Randy Cummings

John, with the sound of your description with the smell of 
electronics it sounds like a filter capacitor has failed. to find 
which one is easy sometimes and a nightmare the other that is the 
reason most power supply boards are removable. A computer is the same 
way the only thing about it is I hope it did not have a current surge 
and take out anything else. The bass hum you hear was most likely a 
AC hum. Capacitors filter the ac ripples from the dc voltage after it 
leaves the diode rectifier bridge. I live in the states and our power 
grid is 60Hz which is 120 volts. everyone else in the world is on 50 
220V. the transformers are switching taking a section of the 
transformer to get it down to a workable voltage. (here 120V) The 
advantage to the 50Hz is less current draw and appliances are more 
economical I hope they can fix you up and get you back. We did not 
have any glitches this weekend. our drummer ran his DTXpress II thru 
our system. I ran a Behringer FBQ3102 graphic EQ thru the main 
inserts to help with the bad acoustic where we were at. I play piano, 
bass and I play the drums some. I love the drums it is just you can't 
play everything at once. but being a bass player I know the drummer 
is my best friend when it comes to the rhythm section. I played a lot 
of Jazz when I was younger I learned then if the bass and drums are 
not comunicating the rest of the band is in for a long night. 







--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, john@... wrote:
>
> Of the two top mounting screws for the amp, one is bent, the other 
has
> sheared, which suggests the amp part was hit at some point. There's 
no
> external damage, and I certainly don't know about that. It's been 
like
> that a while.
> 
> ?
> 
> J
> 
>  > My Behringer KX1200 has been running for years now with no 
issues. It
> > never moves out of the corner of my practice room though, so 
maybe it
> > doesn't handle movement well? Seems like most of the people that 
have
> > problems are gigging with them...
> >
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, john@ wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Randy,
> >>
> >> Thanks for all that, and other's comments. It's interesting .. I
> >> certainly did get, from this list, people saying Behringer stuff 
is
> >> unreliable. But now the comments are much more equivocal, 
sensible
> > and
> >> balanced, which is nice to hear. I don't mean the others weren't,
> > just
> >> that this is more what I expected.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I've removed the amp part and it's packed to go for a
> >> potentially £60 repair. I can't see anything's visibly blown on 
it
> >> though.
> >>
> >> J
> >>
> >> > John, I have a Behringer UB2442FX,I had a Peavey 16 channel
> > board, I
> >> > have a Mackie 16.8 bus. I have a Peavey 2000 stereo amp and a 
Gem
> >> > sound amp. The Behringer has been used on the road and it has
> > seen a
> >> > lot of miles. I had a channel to go out on it after a lot of 
use.
> > The
> >> > Peavey mixer was built more durable but a channel failed on it
> > also.
> >> > My peavey 2000 amp has been a work horse. I say this and it 
will
> >> > probably croak this weekend. The Mackie stays only in my studio
> > so I
> >> > can't compare it to road use. A friend of mine runs a DJ 
service
> > and
> >> > she is always having one of her Mackie boards run in for 
repair.
> > and
> >> > another group I know has had their peavey to go and go without 
any
> >> > problems. I just got the GemSound and the only complaint I have
> > with
> >> > it is the fan is noisy. I bought it because a friend runs his
> >> > DTXpress II thru a Gem sound powered speaker and it has lasted 
for
> >> > about 3 years now and I like the sound of it. The amp part of 
the
> >> > speaker only has treble and Bass, but the speaker has a 15 a 
horn
> > and
> >> > 3 piezeo tweeters and they balance out the drum kits well. 
Here is
> >> > the way I look at it. Amps are built with semiconductors. Amps 
put
> >> > out power and with power it generates heat. heat causes
> > components to
> >> > fail. No matter what brand it is failed parts will happen.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, john@ wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hey ppl
> >> >>
> >> >> I just thought I'd report in.
> >> >>
> >> >> When I was choosing an amp, most people recommended Peavey, 
but
> > some
> >> >> recommended Behringer and I went for the latter in a fit of EU
> >> >> support, and I think I believed that the Behringer with its 
three
> >> >> speakers would give a wider range than the Peavey, with its 
one.
> > I
> >> > may
> >> >> well be wrong about all of that.
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyway, I was warned that Behringer has a reputation for
> >> >> unreliability, but someone else said that, this being a new
> > product,
> >> >> perhaps they'd fixed that.
> >> >>
> >> >> So a few weeks ago I was on stage, maybe using the amp 
properly
> > for
> >> >> about the fourth time, in the middle of the opening song, when
> > the
> >> > amp
> >> >> failed with a smell of hot electronics and a lot of bass hum,
> >> >> regardless of the settings.
> >> >>
> >> >> OK, we wired the kit through the PA and were able to carry on,
> > but
> >> > not
> >> >> before we'd tried to play a song with no drum monitoring. The
> > only
> >> >> drum sound was that which bounced off the far wall of the hall
> > about
> >> >> 1/4 a second too late. Very disconcerting.
> >> >>
> >> >> I ended up using the vocal monitor, which left vocals at a
> >> >> disadvantage. So all very upsetting. I'm no longer a Behringer
> >> >> supporter. You Peavey people were probably right and I was
> > probably
> >> >> wrong and I'm sorry.
> >> >>
> >> >> J
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

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