Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hi Cary,

I'll maybe agree to being one of the more verbose
members, but I am still learning too and don't feel up
to guru level yet (far from it!).  

One of the primary reason I went to the AX14 was more
real estate, but having dual triggers instead of the
stereo TP80S or SE-102 is different.  It will now give
me multiple layers of voices to work with on both the
main pad and on the rim, at the expense though of
using an extra input.  With the dual triggers, I
decided to move my snare from my DTXpress module to my
DTXV2 module, which gives me 5 layers of voices to
work with per trigger. 

The first change I'm still working on is getting the
right layering and voices set up on the main pad for a
 basic acoustic snare.  When I had my stereo pads on
the DTXpress, I had a similar setup, but only had two
layers to work with on the main pad (I had ghost note
and full snare), and one on the rim.  

At the lowest level I've got a sharp hit, low volume
voice for my ghost notes, next level I build on the
first voice with a little reverb and volume to fill it
out, and lower the pitch a little, and so on up
through the highest level (which currently I'm on the
4th level) which is my full snare sound.  I copy this
set up on my other kits that I want acoustic snare
sounds - it gives a more realistic range of sounds as
I go from very light hits through the range to hard
pounding on the AX14.   

What I plan on doing for the rim is also set up
multiple layers, with one layer set up for a cross
stick sound and the other the sound I want as a rim
shot and maybe a third if I can set it up right.  I
think it will take time to get that set up to my
liking, and along the way I expect to learn more about
what I can get the module to do, like maybe set up an
interaction between the two triggers when they're
triggered together to further shape the sound.   

Others in the group must have spent some time working
on their snare setups - tell us about what you've done
and lets help everyone improve their kits.  

Walt 
 
--- chitsman <chitsman@...> wrote:
> Walt-
> 
> You seem to be the DTXpress guru lately.
> 
> A question about your Pintech AX14 Snare... How are
> you using the 
> dual trigger? You see, I'm contemplating taking a
> 12" snare that I 
> have and installing a mesh head and a ddrum Red Shot
> trigger. If I 
> do this I will not have a dual trigger setup, but
> with the Yamaha 
> pad that I have now I don't have a dual trigger set
> up, so I don't 
> know what I'm missing??? I understand the ability to
> trigger two 
> sounds at once for a rim shot, but what sounds are
> you using to 
> accomplish this, and is it worth the expense of a
> new dual trigger 
> drum to get this functionality?
> 
> I would appreciate your feed back a lot.
> 
> Cary
> 
> --- In DTXpress@y..., Walt <wgardus@y...> wrote:
> > Hi JP,
> > 
> > Yes, probably on both counts.
> > 
> > First, if you go away from a rubber pad design,
> you
> > will only find Dual Trigger options.  This means
> that
> > the head and rim have separate triggers, and also
> > requires that you use two inputs.  You could use
> > inputs 9/10 (this is the easiest and 'least
> wasteful')
> > or you could use any other combination of 2 inputs
> on
> > the DTXpress. 
> > 
> > With that problem out of the way, everything else
> > becomes a personal preference.  There are options
> that
> > use mylar heads, and others with a mesh head.  I
> just
> > upgraded my snare to a mesh head one and I love
> it. 
> > 
> > Size options exist in the 10" - 14" range.  Note
> that
> > the larger sizes usually require a snare stand, so
> if
> > you go for this size, plan on spending money for a
> > stand too.
> > 
> > I had tried a 10" Pintech as a first snare
> upgrade,
> > and found myself still wanting more real estate,
> so I
> > now have a 14".
> > 
> > From a price perspective I think that Pintech has
> the
> > lowest price (based on street prices for new
> > models)with their AX14 (this is what I just got). 
> My
> > initial impressions are very positive of this
> product,
> > and you can't beat Pintech's warranty.  Walt  
> > 
> >   
> > --- johnnypro@a... wrote:
> > > Hello all,
> > > I'm thinking of upgrading my snare pad to
> something
> > > with a bit better feel and larger size. I tried
> some
> > > used V-drum pads that were in the store I where
> I
> > > work, but they don't seem to work with the
> DTXPress
> > > brain. Any other choices, (Pintech, or Hart,
> or????)
> > > or suggestions on how to make the V-Pads work? 
> > > Thanx!!!!  JP
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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