Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

--- In DTXpress@y..., "Ian Wilson" <iwilson@b...> wrote:
> The lack of responses is probably due more to no members logged on 
than to lack of interest. we go days without a post. You should see 
how seldom the generic 'electronicdrums2' club gets a post!
Your multi-velocity voices ideas do result in more realistic sounds. 
Some of the differently-named voices seem to be the same sound, with 
slightly different pitch, decay, etc. Have you noticed that? I have 
done pretty well getting a velocity-differing sound using two 
different voices. But I like the full-time layered sound so much that 
I usually do without the velocity fade. 
In live situations, nobody ever hears those nuances anyway. They 
barely care what song you're playing. 
If you're recording,I can think of a couple options....1.A real Snare. 
2. A more sophisticated module. In this case, you'll need a better pad 
also. You will never get the subtle response you need with a rubber 
pad. You need a real head or mesh head pad. 
Changing the subject, sort of, Have you tried giving both voices on 
each pad the same sound? i.e. on snare, voice 1= snare68 and voice 2= 
snare68? This gives a very cool phase effect a la the Faces' Itchycoo 
Park. Make sure the parameters for each voice are exactly the same, 
pitch, freq, decay etc.
About the TP80S. It sucks. The rim switch is totally worthless. I love 
the rubber pads for toms , ride and HH. ( I use a Pintech concertcast 
ST for snare). But I would love to have some rim response on some 
pads, particularly ride and HH. Has anyone found a rubber, stereo pad 
that WORKS? I would love to try it.....Scott W

> I have noticed no responses to my posts about multiple velocity 
samples, so I
> guess this isn't a concern for other users. However, it's probably 
my biggest
> gripe of all about the system, as much as I really enjoy it.
> 
> Sure, you can set up a pad with 2 different samples triggered at 
different
> velocities, but you cannot get the live feel of drums sampled at 
different
> velocities. For one, 2 samples is not enough. For another, the kits 
don't
> contain the same sound sampled at different velocities - say, a 
snare hit hard
> and the same snare hit softly.
> 
> Since even cheap sound modules have this capability, I was very 
surprised to
> find that the DTXpress didn't. The result is that although the kit 
sounds
> great, it in no way resembles a real kit unless you're used to a 
cheaper drum
> machine where the velocity of each sound only alters volume.
> 
> My second gripe is with some of the pads. The TP80S for example, has 
a real
> problem with the rim switches unless you hit right on top of them. 
They are
> placed at the 12 o'clock position, which is great for pads which 
point towards
> you, but terrible for something like a snare. It does trigger in 
other places,
> as long as you whack it quite hard.
> 
> Don't get me wrong, this really is a great kit and especially for 
the price,
> but you could probably spend a few $100 more and get something a 
little better.
> 
> Ian