Yes, the DTXpress maps the snare and kick drum to different notes for some strange reason. Open the drum editor on Cubase and write down the note numbers for the snare and kick you require... Then, can't remember exactly, but edit the snare and kick notes on the DTXpress to be the same as you wrote down. Works fine then. Paul > -----Original Message----- > From: James Sharp [SMTP:jimbosharp@...] > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 9:15 PM > To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DTXpress] Cubase query > > Hi all, > Having set up the DTXpress with Cubase & Cubasis Notation, I've found that > all triggers come through with sound, apart from bass & snare, any idea > why? > Any info much appreciated, > > Jim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DTXpress@yahoogroups.com] > Sent: 23 June, 2002 18:10 > To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DTXpress] Digest Number 591 > > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com > List owner: DTXpress-owner@onelist.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > There are 5 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Re: Dual Trigger Snare > From: Walt <wgardus@...> > 2. Re: PCY 80s choke problems > From: "hairytrigger" <artifax@...> > 3. Re: PCY 80s choke problems > From: "hairytrigger" <artifax@...> > 4. Re: PCY 80s choke problems > From: Walt <wgardus@...> > 5. Re: Re: Dual Trigger Snare > From: Walt <wgardus@...> > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 10:32:36 -0700 (PDT) > From: Walt <wgardus@...> > Subject: Re: Re: Dual Trigger Snare > > Hi Cary, > > I remember going through (or at least, something very > similar to) what you are, so let me throw in my two > cents worth. It is a great question when you're just > starting to think about doing more with your kit. > > With a true dual trigger pad (snare or otherwise) what > you really have is the ability to set up a sound for > the pad, and a different one for the rim. You have > total control over their settings (i.e., which voice, > how loud, reverb, etc.), but you need to use two > inputs to get this ability. > > What kinds of things can you do with this? Let's say > that you have one kit defined for slow, as we used to > call it - belly rubbin' music', here you could set up > the pad to have a soft snare sound, and the rim to > have a stick sound (that wood-block like sound - is > that cross stick?). On the other end, you could have > a different kit for high energy where the pad is a > tight snare sound, and the rim has a rimshot sound. > By tweaking all of the settings the right way you can > replicate those two totally different acoustic snare > environments with your single drum set, and switch > between them with a press of a button or two. > > Of course, with the voices available on the DTXpress, > your imagination, and experimentation, become the only > limiting factors as to what you could do with the > combinations of sounds you want to have for a snare, > or any dual trigger pad. > > Another example could be for a dual trigger cymbal > pad, like the Hart 16" ride for example. Here you > have the main trigger defined for a deep ride ping, > and the bell trigger set for - what else; a bell > sound. Simple, but I hope it helps you understand the > big picture, so you can start drilling into what you > like. > > Walt > --- chitsman <chitsman@...> wrote: > > Scott > > > > Thank you for the advice. I will go through the > > sounds to find a > > snare sound that I like. Do I use a second snare > > sound for the rim > > also? This is the mystery to me. If so, do I set it > > up with a louder > > volume? > > > > I like the Acusnare. It is nice to have a pad that > > is larger and more > > realistic in both size and feel. Those little rubber > > pads were > > beginning to bother my hands. It does seem to be > > very sensitive. This > > is my first experience playing a mesh head trigger, > > other than > > demoing some V-Drums. Also I felt that the price on > > this Acusnare > > made it an easy addition. > > > > If you do have a chance to gicve me a couple of > > examples for the dual > > trigger snare setup, I would appreciate it. > > > > Cary > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "hairytrigger" <artifax@i...> > > wrote: > > > Cary > > > Killer sounds are very subjective. the coolest > > sounds are different > > > for everybody. The best way is to just set the > > voice for Snare > > drum, > > > and scroll thru the voices,playing each one til > > you find some you > > > like. Try changing the tuning a little on each > > one. Save the one > > you > > > like to different kits. Then set the rim to snare > > also, and scroll > > > thru to find the right rim sounds. Many > > combinations will work > > great. > > > Then experiment with voice two on snare. Layer the > > two different > > > sounds, with or with out crossfade. Or try the > > same sound on v-1 > > and > > > v-2, with different pitch and tone, with > > crossfade, for a more > > > realistic response. > > > It just takes some experimentation to find the > > right sounds for > > you. I > > > don't have my kit here or I would give specific > > combos. > > > PS How is the accusnare response? I'm using a > > Concertcast ST with > > > great success, but could always use a bigger, more > > sensitive pad. > > > Scott > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "chitsman" <chitsman@s...> > > wrote: > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > > > > > OK, I bought a Dual Trigger Acusnare off of ebay > > for a decent > > price, > > > > and I have plugged it into input 9/10 with a > > stereo cable and > > > > everything is working. > > > > > > > > Can I get any recommendations for sounds to use > > for my new setup. > > > All > > > > of the stock sounds are cymbals, cowbells, etc. > > I want some > > killer > > > > snare and rim combinations that I can quickly > > set up to get > > started > > > > and become familiar with what type of sounds I > > should be looking > > > for. > > > > > > > > Maybe I should go to the Guitar center and sit > > down on a V-Drum > > kit > > > > to see what they have programed??? > > > > > > > > Any advice and help would be greatly > > appreciated, and who knows > > we > > > > may inspire some other users to become more > > creative also. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Cary > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 01:05:38 -0000 > From: "hairytrigger" <artifax@...> > Subject: Re: PCY 80s choke problems > > Glen > In trigger setup, make sure 'Pad Type' is not set for PCY Crash. This > supports the choke. I had the same problem. There is no way to adjust > the thing when this pad type is used. BUT 'PCY Ride might do it , too. > I used 'TP Tom' for the setting, and as O remember some of the 'Misc' > pad types work ok too. That choke really sucks when you don't need it. > It rears its ugly head when trying to do a cymbal swell, if you're not > careful. > Scott > --- In DTXpress@y..., "Glen Davidson" <glend1@c...> wrote: > > Hello all, > > I'm having a problem setting a pcy 80 pad. When I hit the rim it > triggers to sound right but I think it is also triggering the choke > function at the same time. The sound cuts out before it should. It > also happens sometimes when I hit the pad. I am attempting to set up > the pad as a ride cymbal with the pad as a lite ride and the rim as > the bell but the choke seems to trigger and cuts off both of the > sounds. > > > > please help!!! > > Glen > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 01:06:21 -0000 > From: "hairytrigger" <artifax@...> > Subject: Re: PCY 80s choke problems > > Glen > In trigger setup, make sure 'Pad Type' is not set for PCY Crash. This > supports the choke. I had the same problem. There is no way to adjust > the thing when this pad type is used. BUT 'PCY Ride might do it , too. > I used 'TP Tom' for the setting, and as O remember some of the 'Misc' > pad types work ok too. That choke really sucks when you don't need it. > It rears its ugly head when trying to do a cymbal swell, if you're not > careful. > Scott > --- In DTXpress@y..., "Glen Davidson" <glend1@c...> wrote: > > Hello all, > > I'm having a problem setting a pcy 80 pad. When I hit the rim it > triggers to sound right but I think it is also triggering the choke > function at the same time. The sound cuts out before it should. It > also happens sometimes when I hit the pad. I am attempting to set up > the pad as a ride cymbal with the pad as a lite ride and the rim as > the bell but the choke seems to trigger and cuts off both of the > sounds. > > > > please help!!! > > Glen > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 22:43:35 -0700 (PDT) > From: Walt <wgardus@...> > Subject: Re: PCY 80s choke problems > > Hi Glen, > > If you look at the rim trigger closely, do you see any > cracks? This can cause that symptom.... Walt > --- Glen Davidson <glend1@...> wrote: > > Hello all, > > I'm having a problem setting a pcy 80 pad. When I > > hit the rim it triggers to sound right but I think > > it is also triggering the choke function at the same > > time. The sound cuts out before it should. It also > > happens sometimes when I hit the pad. I am > > attempting to set up the pad as a ride cymbal with > > the pad as a lite ride and the rim as the bell but > > the choke seems to trigger and cuts off both of the > > sounds. > > > > please help!!! > > Glen > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 22:46:22 -0700 (PDT) > From: Walt <wgardus@...> > Subject: Re: Re: Dual Trigger Snare > > Hey Scott, > > I am using the Hart HHs and an HH80 and love the > combination. I know there was a set on eBay that > included the stand, but I haven't looked tonight to > see if they're still there. Walt > --- hairytrigger <artifax@...> wrote: > > Cary > > Yes the rim sounds are in with the snare sounds. I > > think most of them > > have 'RIM' in the voice name, such as: '2 > > LooseyRim,' 20 'BigWoodRim' > > Many of them are paired with a regular snare sound, > > and many are > > already layered. Your assumption about the volume is > > usually correct. > > The rim voice does work better when it is a little > > louder. It is > > usually louder when playing an acoustic snare. If > > you find some snare > > sounds you like, but they dont have corresponding > > rim sounds, pic one > > that is close, and change the pitch and decay and > > Filter Cutoff > > Frequency for the voice to see if you can get it > > close enough. Usually > > you can. I won't be back at my kit til Sunday, so I > > don't have access > > to my set ups. Hope this helps. > > About the accusnare. I also couldn't handle smacking > > the rubber pad on > > snare all night.My Concertcast has the mesh head. I > > love it. But I > > also love the rubber pads for toms and ride cymbal.I > > would like to > > find something else for HiHat tho! > > Scott > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "chitsman" <chitsman@s...> > > wrote: > > > Scott > > > > > > Thank you for the advice. I will go through the > > sounds to find a > > > snare sound that I like. Do I use a second snare > > sound for the rim > > > also? This is the mystery to me. If so, do I set > > it up with a louder > > > volume? > > > > > > I like the Acusnare. It is nice to have a pad that > > is larger and > > more > > > realistic in both size and feel. Those little > > rubber pads were > > > beginning to bother my hands. It does seem to be > > very sensitive. > > This > > > is my first experience playing a mesh head > > trigger, other than > > > demoing some V-Drums. Also I felt that the price > > on this Acusnare > > > made it an easy addition. > > > > > > If you do have a chance to gicve me a couple of > > examples for the > > dual > > > trigger snare setup, I would appreciate it. > > > > > > Cary > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "hairytrigger" > > <artifax@i...> wrote: > > > > Cary > > > > Killer sounds are very subjective. the coolest > > sounds are > > different > > > > for everybody. The best way is to just set the > > voice for Snare > > > drum, > > > > and scroll thru the voices,playing each one til > > you find some you > > > > like. Try changing the tuning a little on each > > one. Save the one > > > you > > > > like to different kits. Then set the rim to > > snare also, and scroll > > > > thru to find the right rim sounds. Many > > combinations will work > > > great. > > > > Then experiment with voice two on snare. Layer > > the two different > > > > sounds, with or with out crossfade. Or try the > > same sound on v-1 > > > and > > > > v-2, with different pitch and tone, with > > crossfade, for a more > > > > realistic response. > > > > It just takes some experimentation to find the > > right sounds for > > > you. I > > > > don't have my kit here or I would give specific > > combos. > > > > PS How is the accusnare response? I'm using a > > Concertcast ST with > > > > great success, but could always use a bigger, > > more sensitive pad. > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "chitsman" <chitsman@s...> > > wrote: > > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > > > > > > > OK, I bought a Dual Trigger Acusnare off of > > ebay for a decent > > > price, > > > > > and I have plugged it into input 9/10 with a > > stereo cable and > > > > > everything is working. > > > > > > > > > > Can I get any recommendations for sounds to > > use for my new > > setup. > > > > All > > > > > of the stock sounds are cymbals, cowbells, > > etc. I want some > > > killer > > > > > snare and rim combinations that I can quickly > > set up to get > > > started > > > > > and become familiar with what type of sounds I > > should be looking > > > > for. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I should go to the Guitar center and sit > > down on a V-Drum > > > kit > > > > > to see what they have programed??? > > > > > > > > > > Any advice and help would be greatly > > appreciated, and who knows > > > we > > > > > may inspire some other users to become more > > creative also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Cary > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! 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RE: [DTXpress] Cubase query
2002-06-24 by Brow, Paul [LTS]