Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Jay,

Right. The ST (silentech) version is the one you want. The earlier 
plain concertcasts are noisier. By the way, you can put any mesh 
head that fits the drum and suits you on the Pintech--one of their 
own, a Hart, a Roland, single-ply, double-ply. They do have slightly 
different feels. The Visu-lite hi hat cymbals aren't rubber but 
acrylic, and they are attractive. The review on the site gives a 
sense of how they play--more like real cymbals, which don't normally 
hurt your wrist unless you're a beginner or too stiff. But if you're 
a beginner, or beginning again, everything hurts for a while.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Welch" <jay@s...> wrote:
> Ed,
> 
> Thanks for all the info!   Looking on the internet  I see the 
concertcast
> series and the concertcast "silentech".    I assume when you say 
ST you are
> referring to the Silentech?   Being at least as quiet as the 
rubber pads is
> something I am looking for.    Not sure if the regular concertcast 
meets
> those requirements.  Sounds like the silentech series does.
> 
> I will check out the website on the high hat product.   I may be 
unique in
> the fact I have never played acoustic drums so getting the feel of 
acoustic
> drums is not as important as finding a pad that is more forgiving 
on my
> wrists and quiet.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Jay
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> > Hi Jay,
> >
> > Do you mind if I put in my 2 cents? I completely agree with Scott
> > about the Pintech Concertcast ST 10" dual-zone snare. First of 
all,
> > it's 2" bigger than the Yamaha standard-issue gum rubber, and 
it's
> > quieter; quietness, give, and acoustic-drum simulation are the 
three
> > main advantages of mesh heads. You may have to place a rubber
> > coating around the chrome rim to deaden rim shots and cross 
sticks,
> > but your wrists and roommates will certainly thank you. If you 
want
> > to graduate to the AX14S snare, I heartily share that 
endorsement,
> > too. Scott and I recently exchanged posts on our experiences 
with it.
> >
> > On the hi hat thing: I think that the state of electronic hi hats
> > borders on the deplorable, especially Yamaha's gum rubber pads at
> > every level, past and present. Since Yamaha has officially
> > discontinued the DTXtreme, maybe a genuine improvement is in the
> > works. In the meantime, some people adapt e-cymbals from one
> > manufacturer or another; I'm currently using a Drum Tech Pole Pad
> > (Yamaha and Pintech make their own versions). Hart uses dedicated
> > metal cymbals on a dedicated stand, but I've heard that the 
response
> > through Yamaha modules is not what you'd expect (I can confirm it
> > for the otherwise wonderful Hart ride), although the Roland crowd
> > appears to have more success with it.
> >
> > As I've reported before, however, another option for Yamaha 
users is
> > on the way. Tom Pickard at EPS has agreed to produce a Yamaha-
> > friendly version of his hi hat assembly. As the only electronic 
hi
> > hat cymbals that open and close on a traditional hi hat stand, 
they
> > represent a real breakthrough. Roland and Alesis users have had
> > their benefit for a long time. Tom and I have been communicating
> > about the issue for a couple of months, and I'll report on its
> > availability as soon as possible. In the meantime, interested
> > parties can go to the Visu-lite website (http://www.visu-
lite.com/)
> > to take a look at Tom's cymbals, get a demo of the hi hat in 
action,
> > and email words of encouragement if they are so inclined.
> >
> > Ed
> >