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Re: Inputs and accessories

2003-01-21 by liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@yahoo.com>

Okay, got ya. Here's what I think is going on. Input 9/10 will 
handle two mono FSRs or two piezos but not one piezo and one 
membrane switch from a "stereo" pad or cymbal, because stereo pads 
and inputs have a totally different electronic makeup than their 
dual-zone, or mono, counterparts. Inputs 1-8, as combinations of 1 
piezo/2 membrane switches (or FSRs), would seem, in principle, to 
permit a triggering opportunity for the two independent FSRs of a BP 
80 or its equivalent if you could just get to them. The problem is 
that those two membrane switches are not independent triggers. Their 
open and closed positions (membranes are basically open/close 
toggles) determine what sound the piezo is going to make--whether 
the sound programed to the rim, the body, or a choke; the switches 
are, if you will, slaves to the piezo. The timing of how the 
interaction between them takes place, not to mention the delicacy of 
their relative physical locations in the pad, is complicated. But 
the upshot is that creative cabling won't help you; those inputs are 
by nature single piezo inputs. You can't treat the "stereo" 
or "trio" inputs as taking multiple mono feeds, whether piezos or 
FSRs. Anyway, that's my understanding.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "SKWatson <skwatson@b...>" 
<skwatson@b...> wrote:
> Then some more theory here...
> 
> Couldn't the barpad go (via a custom cable) to the 2 'rim' parts 
of 
> the ride input (assuming that it is capable of handling the 3 zone 
> pad just like the new snare pad of the DTXpress (like the manual 
> says))?
> 
> So as discussed before, 
> it appears that the 3 zone inputs (#2, 6 and 7)can handle 1 piezo 
> and 2 FRS per input).  
> The rest appear to handle dual zone (1 piezo and 1 FRS per input).
> But 9/10 appears to be able to handle either 2 piezo or 2 FRS or 
one 
> of each?  Correct?
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > The Yamaha bar pad has two FSRs that access inputs 9/10 through 
a 
> > single stereo cable or any other two inputs via a splitter. The 
> > cymbal bell trigger is a single piezo, requiring a single input 
of 
> > its own. Out of the box, the DTXpress module cannot accommodate 
> both 
> > the bar pad and the bell without help from the outside, unless 
the 
> > the bar pad shares input 9 and 10 with the bell via a splitter, 
> > thereby turning the bar into a single-zone trigger.
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "SKWatson <skwatson@b...>" 
> > <skwatson@b...> wrote:
> > > If I understand correctly, if you want to have both the bar 
pad 
> > and 
> > > the cymbal bell trigger, you would have go with an extra 
trigger 
> > > module of some sort.  This assumes that both the bar pad and 
> bell 
> > > triggers are piezo and not FSR.
> > > 
> > > Can anyone confirm the type of triggers that the barpad and 
bell 
> > pad 
> > > contain?  Doesn't make too much sense that they wouldn't have 
> > enough 
> > > inputs...

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