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Re: [DTXpress] about to buy .....

2003-02-14 by Walt

Some people think Yamaha's sounds are better than many
other brands, and as far as getting the triggering
stable enough for playing live, it should not be a
problem.  

Here is a member of the DTX group using his DTX to
play along with a song - you be the judge of how the
kit responds (this is a DTX, not a DTXpress, but it is
the same pads and basically the same sounds).

www.thediametrixletter.com/eleuthera1.mp3

Walt
--- darren <darren.hussey@...> wrote:
> hey, thanks very much walt, thats answered just
> about everything i needed
> confirming!!!
> 
> just one small thing, when i talked about
> suitability for gigging and studio
> work, i was more angling for an opinion about the
> actual sounds and
> triggering intelligence than pure build quality. Can
> you really play these
> things at gigs and not suffer from machine gun rolls
> and stolen notes etc?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 2/14/03 2:27 PM, Walt at wgardus@... wrote:
> 
> > Hi Darren,
> > 
> > yes, yes, yes and yes.
> > 
> > Anyway, let me try to attack your questions. 
> First,
> > you should be able to do the bi-directional MIDI
> stuff
> > you mentioned.  Many users interface with other
> > devices (or with software like Cakewalk) to export
> the
> > drum hits, and also send MIDI info to the xpress
> for
> > it to produce the sounds.
> > 
> > Gigging and studio use are also things members
> have
> > experience with.  For gigging you may find over
> time
> > that some of the hardware - especially the plastic
> > clamps may need upgrading (someone recently posted
> > that in real cold weather, it is easy for them to
> > crack if you don't let them warn up before
> tightening.
> > They are of a standard size so Gibraltar clamps
> work
> > too.  These plastic clamps are common on all of
> the
> > lower priced kits, so you can't avoid them.  I
> even
> > met a drummer using a DTXpress on a recent cruise
> - so
> > they're even sea-worthy!
> > 
> > As far as being able to upgrade pads, this is
> do-able,
> > but many us have found compatibility issues with
> some
> > of the hardware that is out there.  Usually it can
> be
> > resolved with parameter tweaking - sometimes it
> takes
> > discussion with the manufacturer of the device.  I
> > have used Roland PD-80s, Pintech mesh head pads,
> Hart
> > Ecymbal IIs and a bunch of other stuff.  The Hart
> ride
> > and HH were among the 'problem children', but the
> > others worked good.
> > 
> > Walt
> > --- darren <darren.hussey@...> wrote:
> >> hello, i'm new here and about to buy a dtexpress
> II
> >> (i'm pretty sure
> >> anyway). Unfortunately there is nowhere within a
> >> hundred miles of where I
> >> live that stocks all the different edrum kits to
> >> play and compare, which
> >> sucks obviously. So I am going to get one sent,
> and
> >> as a result of a weeks
> >> worth of exhaustive research, I seem to have
> decided
> >> on the dtexpress II but
> >> wanted to check a few facts with you guys before
> i
> >> go for it:
> >> 
> >> Am I right in saying that there is no way of
> >> assigning drums to discrete
> >> outputs, so that (for example) you can let a live
> >> engineer balance your kik
> >> and snare the way he feels is right from front of
> >> house? does that mean it
> >> is literally stereo only output? Does this mean
> that
> >> during a soundcheck, if
> >> the engineer is moaning that he's not getting
> enough
> >> kik, I would have to
> >> start trawling through menus and punching buttons
> to
> >> turn it up?
> >> 
> >> There are two things that i would like to use
> midi
> >> for, can i just briefly
> >> mention them and see if its possible? here goes;
> >> firstly i would like the
> >> ability to play a drum track and transmit the
> midi
> >> data to a sequencer for
> >> firing better sounds from a sampler at mixdown.
> I'm
> >> sure it can do this but
> >> is there any limitation? does it transmit
> absolutely
> >> everything that it
> >> recieves such as high hat pedal changes etc?
> >> Secondly I would like to do the same in reverse,
> >> i.e. to allow an external
> >> sequencer to play the kit from a midi file of me
> >> playing the song at an
> >> earlier time. Is that facility good enough for
> live
> >> use? because sometimes
> >> i'm required on guitar, and short of growing
> limbs
> >> this seems a good
> >> solution.
> >> 
> >> One more thing, i've not managed to find out the
> >> extent of the
> >> cross-manufacturer compatibility and because i am
> >> new to this lark i'm not
> >> sure i fully understand what goes on. Could I
> >> replace those funny pie shaped
> >> cymbals with a v-cymbal at a later date? Likewise
> if
> >> I wanted to upgrade to
> >> a mesh head snare from a competitors range, is it
> >> compatible?
> >> 
> >> Lastly, I know this is a bit of a stupid
> question,
> >> but could I possibly get
> >> some opinions about whether this kit is generally
> >> good enough for live and
> >> studio use. I will be a bit dissapointed if i end
> up
> >> suffering from machine
> >> gun rolls and stolen notes etc etc. I guess I
> need
> >> to cut through all the
> >> marketing hype and biased reviews and ask some
> real
> >> people - is this an
> >> interesting and fun practice kit, or is this a
> >> seriously decent drumming
> >> tool? I really dont want to fork out for one of
> the
> >> kits that cost
> >> three/four times the price but in fact dont sound
> >> any better, plus i'm a bit
> >> of a yamaha fan!
> >> 
> >> many thanks in advance for any info
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
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> 


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