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Re: Need Help for use with Ddrum trigger on DTXpress

2003-02-22 by liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@yahoo.com>

Go to post #1277 and see if you can email him directly.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dopmi <mapod@w...>" <mapod@w...> 
wrote:
> i have the Red Shot trigger serie , with Jack cable not pin .
> but you reply when you said that a guy here had a problem with 
Ddrum 
> trigger and find how to use it good with DTXpress take him lot of 
> time , seem he don't saw any of my message :-(((
> he can be Very helpful for me ! 
> 
> Stephane
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Here's what ddrum has to say about whether its triggers work 
with 
> > other modules:
> > 
> > ddrum Triggers are designed to work with ddrumAT, ddrum3 and 
ddrum4 
> > sound modules. They may also work with other brands, but the 
> > functionality cannot be guaranteed. Some drum modules have 
problems 
> > detecting the trig signal from ddrum Triggers. If you want to 
try 
> > anyway, it important to know that Pin 2 is hot and Pin 1 is 
shield 
> > on the ddrum Triggers. Some microphone cables have Pin 3 hot and 
> > some drum modules may be designed according to this.
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dopmi <mapod@w...>" 
<mapod@w...> 
> > wrote:
> > > the trigger is on the border , i fiwed them right i think , 
and 
> > all 
> > > my drum who have same problem of sensitivity ( on snare 
trigger 
> > are 
> > > on left side and on floor tom drum on the right side so i 
don't 
> > think 
> > > that the position is the problem ) 
> > > Stephane
> > > 
> > >  
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > Yes, the the hits aren't registering. If you've adjusted the 
> > > > module's settings correctly, the source of the problem would 
> > seem 
> > > to 
> > > > be the drum, not the module. I don't have any experience 
with 
> > ddrum 
> > > > triggers, so I can't say for sure, but I suspect they should 
> > work 
> > > > fine with the Yamaha electronics. Have you tried changing 
the 
> > > > trigger's position on the drum, or swapping that particular 
> > trigger 
> > > > with another one?
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dopmi <mapod@w...>" 
> > <mapod@w...> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Hi , i only have time to test what you said now , and that 
> > didn't 
> > > > > resolve the problem , also there is a new problem i didn't 
> saw 
> > > > > before , when i'am on gain and velocity page i can see 
above 
> > the 
> > > % 
> > > > > when i hit my snare and even when i play real hard on it i 
> can 
> > > > only 
> > > > > have 43 % !!! , that's the problem ! , is that mean that 
> emesh 
> > > > head 
> > > > > on acoustic drum or Ddrum trigger are not compatible with 
> > > DTXpress 
> > > > > module ? i need a more sensitive module ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Stephane
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "hairytrigger 
> <artifax@i...>" 
> > > > > <artifax@i...> wrote:
> > > > > > There are two things I could suggest. First try a 
different 
> > > > trigger 
> > > > > > setup. when in the normal display, press the page up 
> > > > button.Select 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > >  'Trig = 3 EASY' setup.
> > > > > > If this doesn't work, go back to normal. In the trigger 
> > setup 
> > > > menu 
> > > > > > select a different velocity curve. Try 'Loud 2'
> > > > > > Hope this helps...
> > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dopmi <mapod@w...>" 
> > > > <mapod@w...> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > ok ii have finaly find how to have a better 
sensitivity 
> > with 
> > > > my 
> > > > > > > acoustic drum with trigger Ddrum rather then clasic 
Yamah 
> > pad 
> > > > ( i 
> > > > > > > select on input parameters misc 1 or DT snare for the 
> > snare ) 
> > > > but 
> > > > > i 
> > > > > > > still don't have enough loud sound on snare ( or tom ) 
> > when i 
> > > > > play 
> > > > > > > not so loud ( emesh head are not so quiet to play real 
> > hard 
> > > on 
> > > > it 
> > > > > > > after midnight ), the only way to have a enough loud 
> sound 
> > > > while 
> > > > > > > playing not real hard on snare is to set velocity to 
more 
> > > then 
> > > > > 35 , 
> > > > > > > but then ghost not sound don't sound anymore like 
ghost 
> > > note , 
> > > > to 
> > > > > > > have good ghost note i have to set velocity  to not 
more 
> > then 
> > > > 20 
> > > > > or 
> > > > > > > 25 and gain to at least 80 , is there another thing i 
can 
> > try 
> > > > to 
> > > > > > > change to have a good ghost note And have a enough 
loud 
> > sound 
> > > > > when i 
> > > > > > > play a "normal" hit on snare ( i mean not real hard 
> > hit ) ?? 
> > > ( 
> > > > > like 
> > > > > > i 
> > > > > > > had with clasic Yamaha pad ) 
> > > > > > > Thank You 
> > > > > > > Stephane
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dopmi <mapod@w...>" 
> > > > > <mapod@w...> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi , rather then use Yamaha pad i use now my 
acoustic 
> > drum 
> > > > with 
> > > > > > > Mesh 
> > > > > > > > Head and Ddrum trigger , i don't have a good result 
for 
> > > > now : 
> > > > > > after 
> > > > > > > > some change on Gain and Velocity i still have 
problem 
> to 
> > > > have 
> > > > > good 
> > > > > > > > sensitivity of sound , to have a almost loud snare 
> sound 
> > i 
> > > > have 
> > > > > to 
> > > > > > > > hit Real Hard on my snare , i had that even without 
> > start 
> > > > > changing 
> > > > > > > > after using Yamaha pad , so i guess there is 
something 
> > to 
> > > > > change 
> > > > > > > > somewhere when you change from clasic pad to 
acoustic 
> > drum 
> > > > with 
> > > > > a 
> > > > > > > > Ddrum triggering ? i remember that some of you used 
> > Ddrum 
> > > > kick 
> > > > > > > pad , 
> > > > > > > > what did you change to have a good sensitivity ?
> > > > > > > > Thank's
> > > > > > > > Stephane

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