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Re: reducing vibration

2003-03-01 by liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@yahoo.com>

Steve,

That can be trouble. When trying to keep crosstalk down in a case 
like that, it's best to have triggers that are susceptible to each 
other connected to the same interface whenever possible, just so 
that you can target them specifically if the interface lets you. I 
don't recall what provisions the PM-16 makes for isolating 
particular triggers from each other, but UNH or Walt should be able 
to tell you. Until they show up, if the cymbal on the dtx is 
reacting to the toms on the PM-16, you might be able to find a 
general rejection setting for the cymbal on the dtx that eliminates 
the crosstalk from vibration (remember to keep the value as low as 
you can; rejection essentially mutes the protected pad for a brief 
interval when other triggers are hit at a force within the range of 
the rejection setting; you can see how that might create other 
difficulties). Unfortunately, because the dtx's specific rejection 
works only on local pads, it is irrelevant in this case. But you can 
also try reducing the cymbal's gain and raising its min. vel. a 
touch, if you can afford it. 

Ed
 --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Parker" <stepar@a...> wrote:
> Ed,
> Thanks for the education.  One thing I forgot to mention was that 
the crosstalk is coming from pads plugged into my PM-16, where the 
cymbols are plugged into the DTX.  Does that change anything?
> 
> Steve
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@y...> 
>   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 10:50 AM
>   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: reducing vibration
> 
> 
>   Hi Steve,
> 
>   The official term for that kind of vibration interference is 
>   crosstalk, and the module's cure for it comes under various 
forms of 
>   rejection in the trigger menu. If a particular cymbal is 
reacting to 
>   a particular tom when struck, go into the trigger menu for that 
>   cymbal and toggle pages until you get to the specific rejection 
>   page. Set that particular cymbal/input--which I assume is on 
either 
>   input 6 or input 7--to specifically reject that tom, but only as 
>   high a value as necessary to do the trick. Rejection reduces the 
>   responsiveness of the pad that's protected. If you're having 
more 
>   general trouble protecting that cymbal from crosstalk, then 
access 
>   the rejection page--rather than, or in addition to, specific 
>   rejection--to set a number just high enough to stop the 
crosstalk.
> 
>   As if that weren't enough, sometimes gain and/or min.velocity 
>   settings can affect crosstalk as well. If your gain on that 
cymbal 
>   is very high, it will be more susceptible to external 
interference. 
>   Likewise, if its min.vel. setting is very low, it may also 
attract 
>   crosstalk more easily.  The trick is find gain, min. velociy, 
and 
>   rej. settings that will allow you to get the sensitivity that 
you 
>   want without triggering the wrong pads in the process.
> 
>   Ed
> 
>   --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "pinachee <stepar@a...>" 
>   <stepar@a...> wrote:
>   > Hi folks,
>   > I've been having a problem with hearing a cymbol sound when I 
hit 
>   my
>   > toms that are attached to the same piece of pipe and the 
vibration
>   > from hitting the tom is setting off the cymbol.  Has anyone 
done
>   > anything to prevent this problem, like put tape on the pipe 
under 
>   the
>   > cymbol clamp.  If I can't find a solution, I might have to 
just 
>   attach
>   > the cymbols to cymbol stands instead of directly on the bar.  
Any
>   > ideas or thoughts would be appreciated.  At 46, I'm not quite 
as 
>   old
>   > as some of you old timers, but I'm no kid either....lol.  OK, 
I 
>   guess
>   > we are all still kids.
>   > 
>   > Steve
> 
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