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Re: [DTXpress] New Pad Advice

2000-07-09 by Richard C. MacDonald

Ahh. Both of your messages help me a lot. There's another option that I
hadn't considered but that may combine the best of both options. I could go
with the Pintech SE102 dual zone rubber pad (10.5"!) and run it into the
channel 2 snare input of the DTXpress. This way, I get a bigger pad, dual
zone, lower price (US$90.00 @ Rockbottom) and still have channel 10 free
(I'll use 9 for the new "tom" pad that I am freeing up). I give up the mesh
head but I've lived without it this long...

I guess I would just need to double-confirm that the Pintech rubber pad
works the same way as the Yamaha. I'm imagining that it does as it takes a
single stereo cable vs. the dual-mono out that the mesh ones have. Will also
have to see whether it mounts onto the Yamaha rod.

Thanks again. Any other opinions or experiences with adding-on are most
welcome,
Rick


-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon E Paluzzi <bp33@...>
To: 'DTXpress@egroups.com' <DTXpress@egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: [DTXpress] New Pad Advice


>Actually, you'd have the same problem with the Roland.
>
>There are two different types of inputs on all Roland and Yamaha modules.
>
>There are stereo inputs, which are found on inputs 2-12 on the TD-10, and
>1-8 on the Yamaha modules.
>
>These are designed to only give dual zone triggering with rubber pads.
>This is because rubber pads use a piezo as the primary (head) trigger, but
>an FSR (force-sensing resistor) as the second trigger.  This is the only
>way to get double zone out of a stereo trigger.
>
>The second type of input is a dual input.  This is found on input 1 on the
>TD-10, and inputs 9/10 and 11/12 on the DTX.  Don't let the numbering
>confuse you-- The inputs are exactly the same.  They allow for two piezo
>inputs.  This means that you can either split two separate (single zone)
>pads, or use a dual piezo pad.  Dual piezo pads include the 12" and 8"
>dual pads from Roland, Spacemuffins from BOom Theory, and the Pintech and
>Hart Dynamics dual triggers.
>
>
>So, since we've discovered that the problem is the same on Roland and
>Yamaha, with the Yammies you're actually better off, since you have two
>dual inputs.  (with the drawback being the 8 stereo, opposed to the
>Roland's 11)
>
>Brandon
>
>On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 sanctum@... wrote:
>>recommend the Pintech dual zone ST (SilenTech) snare at around $190 If I
>>remember correctl it's a 14" snare with a mesh head and rim triggers.
>>The only drawback of this route is that using the 9/10 channels you don't
>>have true rim to pad triggering control so I worry you may get alot of
>>crosstalk, I hope others will comment on that as I know some people have
>>already gone down this route. If you bought a Yamaha dual zone pad
>>however, it would go into channel 2 - snare, since all your channels are
>>stereo anyway, this gives full rim to pad trigger and voice control, but
>>using a rubber dual zone pad isn't anything like playing a real snare
>>with rimshots. Compromises all round I'm afraid, if only Yamaha had
>>built their stereo sockets like Roland do there'd be no problem, but
>>Yamaha use a different technology for their rim triggers to their pad
>>triggers, so you cant split jacks 1-8 for two pad inputs, I know, I've
>>tried.
>
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