Yes I was Brandon. I've read in previous articles that Roland uses piezo sensors for all their rim triggers, but I've never played with a Roland setup enough to know first hand, so if you have first hand knowledge to the contrary Im willing to change my point of view. ---------- From: Brandon E Paluzzi Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 6:27 PM To: 'DTXpress@egroups.com' Subject: RE: [DTXpress] New Pad Advice Are you talking about my message? I said that the Roland uses dual piezos (on the mesh head pads) The rubber pads are a piezo head sensor and an FSR rim trigger, like the yamahas. Bp On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 sanctum@... wrote: > The DTXpress only has on dual input, and I'm not sure you're right >about the Roland using condensers for the rim triggers, I've read >previously that the rim triggers in Roland pads are just piezo sensors. >alittle conflicting information going arround obviously, if you've had >first hand experience of this I'm willing to change my perspective. >By the By, the DTX V2.0 seems to have far less irritating bugs than the >DTXpress, is that right? Is it worth the extra dosh, I may upgrade. > > ---------- > From: Brandon E Paluzzi > Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 6:08 PM > To: 'DTXpress@egroups.com' > Subject: RE: [DTXpress] New Pad Advice > > Actually, you'd have the same problem with the Roland. > > There are two different types of inputs on all Roland and Yamaha modules. > > There are stereo inputs, which are found on inputs 2-12 on the TD-10, and > 1-8 on the Yamaha modules. > > These are designed to only give dual zone triggering with rubber pads. > This is because rubber pads use a piezo as the primary (head) trigger, but > an FSR (force-sensing resistor) as the second trigger. This is the only > way to get double zone out of a stereo trigger. > > The second type of input is a dual input. This is found on input 1 on the > TD-10, and inputs 9/10 and 11/12 on the DTX. Don't let the numbering > confuse you-- The inputs are exactly the same. They allow for two piezo > inputs. This means that you can either split two separate (single zone) > pads, or use a dual piezo pad. Dual piezo pads include the 12" and 8" > dual pads from Roland, Spacemuffins from BOom Theory, and the Pintech and > Hart Dynamics dual triggers. > > > So, since we've discovered that the problem is the same on Roland and > Yamaha, with the Yammies you're actually better off, since you have two > dual inputs. (with the drawback being the 8 stereo, opposed to the > Roland's 11) > > Brandon > > On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 sanctum@... wrote: > >recommend the Pintech dual zone ST (SilenTech) snare at around $190 If I > >remember correctl it's a 14" snare with a mesh head and rim triggers. > >The only drawback of this route is that using the 9/10 channels you don't > >have true rim to pad triggering control so I worry you may get alot of > >crosstalk, I hope others will comment on that as I know some people have > >already gone down this route. If you bought a Yamaha dual zone pad > >however, it would go into channel 2 - snare, since all your channels are > >stereo anyway, this gives full rim to pad trigger and voice control, but > >using a rubber dual zone pad isn't anything like playing a real snare > >with rimshots. Compromises all round I'm afraid, if only Yamaha had > >built their stereo sockets like Roland do there'd be no problem, but > >Yamaha use a different technology for their rim triggers to their pad > >triggers, so you cant split jacks 1-8 for two pad inputs, I know, I've > >tried. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > bp33@... http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/bp33/ > > Carnegie Mellon University, Class of 2000 > Information and Decision Systems, > Human Computer Interaction, and Jazz Performance > > Tartan Ice Hockey Quiddity Kiltie Band > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Law.com is the preeminent online destination for legal professionals. > Visit Law.com for exclusive content from American Lawyer Media, online > CLE Seminars, Practice Centers and Career Listings. > http://click.egroups.com/1/5803/12/_/643449/_/963162512/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Community email addresses: > Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com > List owner: DTXpress-owner@onelist.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Old school buds here: > http://click.egroups.com/1/5536/12/_/643449/_/963249699/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Community email addresses: > Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com > List owner: DTXpress-owner@onelist.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ bp33@... http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/bp33/ Carnegie Mellon University, Class of 2000 Information and Decision Systems, Human Computer Interaction, and Jazz Performance Tartan Ice Hockey Quiddity Kiltie Band ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Make new friends, find the old at Classmates.com: http://click.egroups.com/1/5530/12/_/643449/_/963250059/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Community email addresses: Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com List owner: DTXpress-owner@onelist.com Shortcut URL to this page: http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress
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RE: [DTXpress] New Pad Advice
2000-07-11 by sanctum@saqnet.co.uk