This is just my $0.02, but.... :) I've seen this question go by and I always think the same thing. Acoustic drums and electronic drums are *Two* *Different* *Instruments*! Just as different as a piano and an organ, an acoustic guitar and an electric guitar, etc. To take this line of reasoning farther, you wouldn't *need* to learn to play the piano before you could play organ, but there is a certain transferability of the skills acquired on each. For me, I found the move to edrums fairly easy, but then again I never expected to *replicate* acoustic drums with the edrums, I came into it thinking about learning a *new* instrument. There are advantages and disadvantages to each instrument, but for the most part they will each require you to learn new some new skills and adapt some old skills in order to be successful. For me, some of the things I discovered on my new instrument was learning the dynamics of the edrum set. I found that I was hitting harder than I needed to and that simply turning up the volume on the module made it easier on my arms. (Picture a piano player trying to get the organ to play louder by hitting the keys harder!) :) I also learned I didn't need to play with the butt-end of giant sticks to get the "big rock sound" I was used to. I'd say one of the most difficult learning issues was the hi-hat. For the most part, the toms, cymbals, kick and snare react and respond like their acoustic counterparts, so my skills transferred over almost directly. However, the hi-hat not flexing, giving, moving and changing pitch as the tension of my foot changed required the most "re learning" and I still haven't gotten to a point where I'm completely happy with what I can get out of the set. However, I picture it as a limitation of *my* playing style, and not of the kit itself. When I play *just* the hat and concentrate, I can usually get it to make the sound I am after. This is part of learning a *new* and *different* instrument. Approached with this mindset, you may find you gain a new skill (that of being able to play edrums) to add to your existing acoustic drum playing ability. :) Vern -- Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE | "If the network is down, then you're Senior Systems Engineer | obviously incompetent so why are we Texas Information Services | paying you? Of course, if the network http://www.txis.com | is up, then we obviously don't need Austin Office 512 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG emf said: > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "pinoyboy71" <pinoyboy71@y...> wrote: >> Has the DTXpress replicated the "feel" of an acoustic drum set to a >> great extent? I know it'll never be quite the same, but is it at >> least rather close? As for getting both acoustic and Edrum, i think > i >> might just get a cheap mahagony acoustic set to get the hang of >> things. No, i'm not gonna be working with a band, i just learned to >> enjoy/appreciate drumming. > > In some ways, your question is a hard one to answer definitively. > Although the aim of electronic drums is to relicate acoustic drums to > some extent, the degree to which they succeed, or should succeed, is > a personal matter. If you want to know what it's like to play > traditional drums, then you have to get acquainted with them first > (or at least at the same time as you use electronics). As an > oldtimer, who played acoustic drums for nearly 4o years before I > seriously tried electronics, I didn't miss a beat moving from one to > the other. The main difference for me was in the geography; a gum- > rubber kit simply doesn't cover the space that a similarly configured > acoustic kit does. As for feel, rubber is certainly different from > mylar or calfskin heads and metal cymbals, but I've practiced on > countless types of surface in my day (humans, couch arms, dashboards, > tabletops, you name it). Gum rubber wasn't much of a hardship at all. > In the end, though, I'd have to agree with Jon. If the lure of the > drums for you is the acoustic variety, that's where you ought to go-- > all things being equal. A compromise in the noise and feel > departments, however, would be to put together an a la carte e-kit > that approximates acoustic touch and size better than the stock > DTXpress. For example, You could get a mesh snare with one or two > acrylic cymbals, a round hi hat on a traditional stand, along with a > rack of gum-rubber toms and a gum-rubber kick until you could afford > to make them meshes, too. You could also buy a Pearl Rhythm Traveler > acoustic kit, put mesh heads (Hart two-plies, for example) and > triggers on it, and buy the aforementioned acrylic cymbals etc., and > you'd have many of the features of an acoustic kit that just happens > to run through a module. For other more scratch ideas about how to > construct an e-kit from a number of different materials--traditional > or otherwise--you could consult electronicdrums.com, where people > discuss and build all sorts of DIY projects. > > Ed > > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DTXpress-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress > > Alternate DTXpress site: > http://www.dtxpressions.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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"real" vs. "electronic" drums (was Re: [DTXpress] Re: drummer Newb)
2003-12-16 by Vernon Graner
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