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peavey kb4

2005-01-03 by edrummin

Any KB4 users out there.... Is there any way to inhance midrange 
with this amp? The amp of course handles lows very well, but snare 
and cymbals aren't as bright. Could I add a midrange speaker to the 
KB4 to solve this problem?
Also power light (green) turns to red when some triggers are hit. 
Any reason for this/ is it bad for amp? (Master only set at 5) 
Thanks for any info

Re: peavey kb4

2005-01-03 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "edrummin" <jjff@v...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Any KB4 users out there.... Is there any way to inhance midrange 
> with this amp? The amp of course handles lows very well, but snare 
> and cymbals aren't as bright. Could I add a midrange speaker to the 
> KB4 to solve this problem?
> Also power light (green) turns to red when some triggers are hit. 
> Any reason for this/ is it bad for amp? (Master only set at 5) 
> Thanks for any info

I can only offer general comments because I don't have that amp. Even 
though I have heard of e-drummers using it successfully in small 
venues, its 70 watts or so seem a little on the slight side for e-
drums (despite the fact that even Yamaha has a monitor claiming even 
less power, which maybe not so incidentally appears to sound 
terrible). The strong transients from the kit could be sending too 
much signal into the Peavey. If the sporadic red light indicates 
clipping, then the only recourse is to reduce the volume further. A 
little overloading here and there might not do any damage, but 
persistent clipping could fry elements not intended for rough 
handling. I don't recall whether the Peavey has any bands of eq. 
Personally, I'm not fond of them in most cases, since they are too 
crude and often affect frequencies not supposed to be directly in 
their line of fire. Maybe you could check the tuning of your snares' 
cymbals and adjust it, as well as FC, to bring out more brightness. 
It's impossible to tell from this vantage point, but something could 
be wrong with the Peavey's tweeter. Does it sound like only bass 
frequencies are highlighted?

Ed

RE: [DTXpress] Re: peavey kb4

2005-01-04 by Nick Mela

I have a Peavey KB100. It looks like it is 75watts. Never saw the power
light change. The sound is good by me. More power is always better. 
 
Anyone know a good amp to use for e-drummin
 
Nick
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-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [DTXpress] Re: peavey kb4



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "edrummin" <jjff@v...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Any KB4 users out there.... Is there any way to inhance midrange 
> with this amp? The amp of course handles lows very well, but snare 
> and cymbals aren't as bright. Could I add a midrange speaker to the 
> KB4 to solve this problem?
> Also power light (green) turns to red when some triggers are hit. 
> Any reason for this/ is it bad for amp? (Master only set at 5) 
> Thanks for any info

I can only offer general comments because I don't have that amp. Even 
though I have heard of e-drummers using it successfully in small 
venues, its 70 watts or so seem a little on the slight side for e-
drums (despite the fact that even Yamaha has a monitor claiming even 
less power, which maybe not so incidentally appears to sound 
terrible). The strong transients from the kit could be sending too 
much signal into the Peavey. If the sporadic red light indicates 
clipping, then the only recourse is to reduce the volume further. A 
little overloading here and there might not do any damage, but 
persistent clipping could fry elements not intended for rough 
handling. I don't recall whether the Peavey has any bands of eq. 
Personally, I'm not fond of them in most cases, since they are too 
crude and often affect frequencies not supposed to be directly in 
their line of fire. Maybe you could check the tuning of your snares' 
cymbals and adjust it, as well as FC, to bring out more brightness. 
It's impossible to tell from this vantage point, but something could 
be wrong with the Peavey's tweeter. Does it sound like only bass 
frequencies are highlighted?

Ed





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Re: peavey kb4

2005-01-04 by quarlofx

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Mela" <nick@n...> wrote:
> Anyone know a good amp to use for e-drummin

Hi Nick,
I started a thread awhile back on the same topic as did another member
a bit later and received lots of great advice from the helpful folks
here.  If you search the archives back a few months for
"amplification" you should find a lot of recommendations and advice. 
Due to the dynamic range required for drums, keyboard amps do good job
in general (depending, of course, on what environment you want to use
the amp in).

Based on that advice I bought a Roland KC-550 for my DTXTIIS and it
kicks ... butt!  I'm just using it at home, but it sounds great and is
very flexible.  I have the drums and a Yamaha keyboard/synth into it
and it handles them both wonderfully.  It even does a nice job with my
guitars, although I prefer my little Fender Princeton for those.  

It's a lot of amp and (again, depending on your requirements) should
be great for small gigs.  It's way more than I "need" at home, but ...
hey, it makes me smile a lot!

I hope this helps.

Francis

Re: peavey kb4

2005-01-04 by edrummin

Thanks for the replys all. I called Peavey about the red light 
blinking and they said it is the signal for the DDT feature. DDT 
prevents overload damage. So as long as light blinks occasionally, 
your fine, if it stays on steady, you should back off volumes in 
and/or out.

Re: peavey kb4

2005-01-04 by guynthomas

Nick,

after some research. I bought 2 Wharfdale Pro powered monitors. 
(£500)  THier frequency reange is good and thier power is 200 RMS 
each which would bee slightly lowder than an acustic Kit. ( I had to 
purachse a mixer as well inorder to give enough gain to the power 
amps. )

It now sounds very sweet eapecially loud.

Guy


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Mela" <nick@n...> wrote:
> I have a Peavey KB100. It looks like it is 75watts. Never saw the 
power
> light change. The sound is good by me. More power is always 
better. 
>  
> Anyone know a good amp to use for e-drummin
>  
> Nick
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: emf [mailto:liberatusvirus@y...] 
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 11:50 AM
> To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DTXpress] Re: peavey kb4
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "edrummin" <jjff@v...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Any KB4 users out there.... Is there any way to inhance midrange 
> > with this amp? The amp of course handles lows very well, but 
snare 
> > and cymbals aren't as bright. Could I add a midrange speaker to 
the 
> > KB4 to solve this problem?
> > Also power light (green) turns to red when some triggers are 
hit. 
> > Any reason for this/ is it bad for amp? (Master only set at 5) 
> > Thanks for any info
> 
> I can only offer general comments because I don't have that amp. 
Even 
> though I have heard of e-drummers using it successfully in small 
> venues, its 70 watts or so seem a little on the slight side for e-
> drums (despite the fact that even Yamaha has a monitor claiming 
even 
> less power, which maybe not so incidentally appears to sound 
> terrible). The strong transients from the kit could be sending too 
> much signal into the Peavey. If the sporadic red light indicates 
> clipping, then the only recourse is to reduce the volume further. 
A 
> little overloading here and there might not do any damage, but 
> persistent clipping could fry elements not intended for rough 
> handling. I don't recall whether the Peavey has any bands of eq. 
> Personally, I'm not fond of them in most cases, since they are too 
> crude and often affect frequencies not supposed to be directly in 
> their line of fire. Maybe you could check the tuning of your 
snares' 
> cymbals and adjust it, as well as FC, to bring out more 
brightness. 
> It's impossible to tell from this vantage point, but something 
could 
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> be wrong with the Peavey's tweeter. Does it sound like only bass 
> frequencies are highlighted?
> 
> Ed
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RE: [DTXpress] Re: peavey kb4

2005-01-05 by Nick Mela

Hi Francis,
 
I have the Peavey KB100 with a Yamaha keyboard. I was using the amp for
the drums when I could get away with it. Everyone doesn't appreciate it
like we do. The headphones are the usual. I was looking at Roland's
<http://shop.drumbalaya.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.53/it.A/id.1228/.f;jsessi
onid=ac112b1b1f43093f074fb5bc482f9ddba319742a8919.qQvJq2PEmlnva30O-BbQmk
Lz-ATzr6Lzn6rzqwTxpQOUc30KaNDNo6XKq6zInRmLa30O8RbCpR0HoA5Qmh0Kb2TNo6XK-k
DvrA4Ka3eIqRnvp6iIpAjOp6jynQjM-AbJpgaLaNyLbh8Qa3eS8Oexo6XHngbynknvrkLOlQ
zNp65In0__> TDA-700 as an amp. Don't want to blow the amp for my
keyboard. What do you think ?
 
Nick
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To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DTXpress] Re: peavey kb4



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Mela" <nick@n...> wrote:
> Anyone know a good amp to use for e-drummin

Hi Nick,
I started a thread awhile back on the same topic as did another member
a bit later and received lots of great advice from the helpful folks
here.  If you search the archives back a few months for
"amplification" you should find a lot of recommendations and advice. 
Due to the dynamic range required for drums, keyboard amps do good job
in general (depending, of course, on what environment you want to use
the amp in).

Based on that advice I bought a Roland KC-550 for my DTXTIIS and it
kicks ... butt!  I'm just using it at home, but it sounds great and is
very flexible.  I have the drums and a Yamaha keyboard/synth into it
and it handles them both wonderfully.  It even does a nice job with my
guitars, although I prefer my little Fender Princeton for those.  

It's a lot of amp and (again, depending on your requirements) should
be great for small gigs.  It's way more than I "need" at home, but ...
hey, it makes me smile a lot!

I hope this helps.

Francis





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Re: peavey kb4

2005-01-05 by shuman_jr

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "edrummin" <jjff@v...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Any KB4 users out there.... Is there any way to inhance midrange 
> with this amp? The amp of course handles lows very well, but snare 
> and cymbals aren't as bright. Could I add a midrange speaker to the 
> KB4 to solve this problem?
> Also power light (green) turns to red when some triggers are hit. 
> Any reason for this/ is it bad for amp? (Master only set at 5) 
> Thanks for any info

Howdy, I own a KB4 and like it very much.  I'm sure you already know 
this but are you using input channel 3?  It has a low, midrange, and 
high controls.  The other two inputs only have hi and low if I 
remember correctly.  Also the low Z level or the hi Z level controls 
also sets volume along with the master volume control.  (I can't 
recall which on at the moment).  I keep my master volume around seven 
to eight and by tweaking one of the Z levels, this amp delivers super 
cymbal and high hat sounds.  All frequency ranges are very good and 
loud enough.  I also keep the DDT circuit activated because my LED 
also goes red.  It goes red mostly with my snare drum.  Hope you get 
it all figured out.  Shuman.

Re: [DTXpress] Re: peavey kb4

2005-01-06 by Vernon Graner

shuman_jr said:
> I also keep the DDT circuit activated because my LED
> also goes red.  It goes red mostly with my snare drum.

Good plan. Hearkening back to my "PA" daze... I used Peavey amps (CS-800s
and CS-400s) for my mains and was very happy with the DDT circuit. IIRC,
it is just a limiter but with an interesting design. Rather than linking
the gain reduction inversely to the input signal level, they monitor the
*output* of the amplifier itself to see when it has reached saturation
and reduce the gain to keep the amp right at or below it's "clip" point.

Since the clip point will change based on speaker impeadence and line
voltage, it was always able to "save" the amp & speakers from damage.
When the amps maximum output has been reached and gain is being reduced
to "keep it there", the DDT LED lights up to let you know it's working.
Also lets you know that even if you do turn it up more it won't get
louder..

I had nights where my CS-800's had those lights on almost constantly and
never lost a speaker or amp. :) It was loud... Real, fun, loud! :)

Here's a shot of my PA from the "good old days":

http://www.graner.net/resume/pasystem.html

and here I am at the helm when I weighed less and had more hair:

http://www.graner.net/resume/vgmixing.html

Ah, them were the days... ;)

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