Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

hey guys,

I am new at eDrumming and I am becoming very frustrated with my DTX3,
but I guess that my frustration might be due to user error, rather
than crummy hardware.

I play in a basement band and whenever we get together to practice I
have all sorts of issues with my chokeable cymbal. Whenever I need it
to play that fill in crash, instead of giving me a Craaassshhhh sound
all I get crashzip! which is the same sound I get when I hit the crash
and choke it with my hand. This screws up the whole band. I have
messed around with the rejection settings, but nothing changes. I also
changed the trigger setting from SP Dynamic to SP Medium which does
not do much to solve the problem (it goes from mistrigering every time
to every other time) I tried the basic trigger setting SP Normal,
everything is one volume and that is no fun. The same thing happens
when I practice with headphones.

The issue with the PCY130 is similar, its not the choke thing, but it
does misfire like the PCY130S. With the PCY130 its just a dead piece
of rubber... it just goes clunk. 

Any advice, other than go buy a R0land, you can provide, would be
greatly appreciated. 

Thanks

I don't think any of the module settings will alter the choking - it
is really down to where and how you hit the rim.  If you want the main
cymbal sound, you need to make sure you don't hit the rim at all.  If
you want the rim sound, you need to hit the rim, preferably with the
stick at a fair angle to the cymbal (eg up to 90 degrees).  This is
partly technique, but also down to how you set the angle of the cymbals.

It is possible you have faulty cymbals.

Keith.

Keith,

Thanks for your reply. 

The Cymbals are brand spanking new, I got them Saturday morning and
played them Sunday. I had experienced the same choking problem with
PCY65S and I bought the 130's hoping they were "better". They do look
better :-). 

Regardless, I figured out how to replicate the problem for the most
part. If I hit the cymbal right on the line, I can get it to self
choke over and over. But it can also happen anywhere on the cymbal
(from the cup down to the line). 

I hate to say it, but having to "work" the Cymbal kind of defeats the
purpose of being a multizone thing. If I hit the Cymbal across, from
the edge to the cup, sometimes I get a nice full sound, but other
times I get that party pooping Crashzip!

I will try to work on the positioning of the Cymbal itself. 





--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" <keith@...> wrote:

>
> I don't think any of the module settings will alter the choking - it
> is really down to where and how you hit the rim.  If you want the main
> cymbal sound, you need to make sure you don't hit the rim at all.  If
> you want the rim sound, you need to hit the rim, preferably with the
> stick at a fair angle to the cymbal (eg up to 90 degrees).  This is
> partly technique, but also down to how you set the angle of the cymbals.
> 
> It is possible you have faulty cymbals.
> 
> Keith.
>

Hi Daniel
You know, what you're describing sounds like what my rhh130 was doing
when I first hooked it up to my dtx1... couldn't get a consistent
open high hat sound, sometimes it was a closed hi-hat sound, and
sometimes something else. 

It didn't work right till I reset the dtx 1 to the factory
settings(page 29 of the manual) and viola! it worked perfectly! watch
out though it resets "everything" to factory settings! 

I'm beginning to think that any changes you make to the dtx need to
be noted in a little book and then reset it to factory spec and
reprogram them in whenever there is a problem! This may make it work
proper!

Tom
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Posted by: "Daniel" daniel_zuniga@...   dzuniga
hey guys,

I am new at eDrumming and I am becoming very frustrated with my DTX3,
but I guess that my frustration might be due to user error, rather
than crummy hardware.

I play in a basement band and whenever we get together to practice I
have all sorts of issues with my chokeable cymbal. Whenever I need it
to play that fill in crash, instead of giving me a Craaassshhhh sound
all I get crashzip! which is the same sound I get when I hit the
crash and choke it with my hand. This screws up the whole band. I
have messed around with the rejection settings, but nothing changes.
I also changed the trigger setting from SP Dynamic to SP Medium which
does not do much to solve the problem (it goes from mistrigering
every time to every other time) I tried the basic trigger setting SP
Normal, everything is one volume and that is no fun. The same thing
happens when I practice with headphones.

The issue with the PCY130 is similar, its not the choke thing, but it
does misfire like the PCY130S. With the PCY130 its just a dead piece
of rubber... it just goes clunk. 

Any advice, other than go buy a R0land, you can provide, would be
greatly appreciated. 

Thanks


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