Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hello!
I´m going to buy a electric Kit.
Whats the best choice, Yamaha DTXpress or Roland TD-6K?
Please be serious, and going nuts chosing. Why costs TD-6K more?
I´ll wait your comments!
Thanks in advance!

Ricardo Teixeira

--- In DTXpress@y..., "zmangames" <zmangames@h...> wrote:
> Hello!
> I´m going to buy a electric Kit.
> Whats the best choice, Yamaha DTXpress or Roland TD-6K?
> Please be serious, and going nuts chosing. Why costs TD-6K more?
> I´ll wait your comments!
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Ricardo Teixeira

Ricardo -

I've just bought the Roland - but still like to check in here from 
time to time for general tips. The main difference is the dual zone 
cymbals and choking ability on the symbols. Also, the brain itself is 
very easy to use on the fly - big buttons for changing the preset 
songs and kits (you can use a stick end rather than your finger).
I didn't really audition the DTX very well, but the sounds seemed OK 
to me at the time. I'm very happy with the Roland sounds, but other 
than doing a direct comparison its difficult to say which is bets for 
sounds. Sure the Roland is more expensive but the difference in price 
for a couple of dual zone cymbals for the DTX might just make it 
about the same price - you still have to buy the bass drum pedal for 
both so the price thats advertised is not the end of it. 

let your ears be the judge for the sound, and compare both at the 
same time for the ease of use. (PS I have loads of Yamaha gear so I 
have no particular brand favourite)

Good luck

Andy

> you still have to buy the bass drum pedal for
> both so the price thats advertised is not the end of it.

Not everywhere. I got mine in France (Nantes) and it came with the bass drum
pedal.

Erick FP

Just a correction: New DTXpress (equipped with DTPK9A and RS60A) 
comes with one dual zone snare (for rimshots) and one dual zone 
cymbal (chokable).

I had the same dillemma for some time and after trying both I decided 
on Yamaha. I believe there is an easily noticeable sound difference 
(if not pads) between the two. To my ears Yamaha sounded more real 
and Roland sounded more "refined" - not something particularly bad 
but I felt something synthetic. You may as well like that "refined" 
sound, it's best for you to try it for yourself.

Note that when auditioning I only compared normal drums sounds 
(acoustic snares, toms, cymbals), I am not interested in latin sounds 
or those wierd effects. So if you're mainly interested in these 
sounds my comments do not apply.

Okan

--- In DTXpress@y..., "andy4tune" <andy4tune@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@y..., "zmangames" <zmangames@h...> wrote:
> > Hello!
> > I´m going to buy a electric Kit.
> > Whats the best choice, Yamaha DTXpress or Roland TD-6K?
> > Please be serious, and going nuts chosing. Why costs TD-6K more?
> > I´ll wait your comments!
> > Thanks in advance!
> > 
> > Ricardo Teixeira
> 
> Ricardo -
> 
> I've just bought the Roland - but still like to check in here from 
> time to time for general tips. The main difference is the dual zone 
> cymbals and choking ability on the symbols. Also, the brain itself 
is 
> very easy to use on the fly - big buttons for changing the preset 
> songs and kits (you can use a stick end rather than your finger).
> I didn't really audition the DTX very well, but the sounds seemed 
OK 
> to me at the time. I'm very happy with the Roland sounds, but other 
> than doing a direct comparison its difficult to say which is bets 
for 
> sounds. Sure the Roland is more expensive but the difference in 
price 
> for a couple of dual zone cymbals for the DTX might just make it 
> about the same price - you still have to buy the bass drum pedal 
for 

> both so the price thats advertised is not the end of it. 
> 
> let your ears be the judge for the sound, and compare both at the 
> same time for the ease of use. (PS I have loads of Yamaha gear so I 
> have no particular brand favourite)
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Andy

I've played around with roland drums on several occasions and I've 
always seemed to wonder about the sound quality.  The sound is a hair 
too perfect.  At gigs the sound will catch someone's ear simply 
because it sounds like a machine.  I've never heard a roland kit that 
can reproduce an "acoustic" sound.  Yamaha is much closer in my 
opinion.  The rubber "drum" pads on the roland kit have a better feel 
than the yamaha, that's about all they have, those cymbal pads on it 
are just terrible.  A yamaha pcy80s is much smoother in the tracking 
and easier play in general.  With the roland pads being the only 
advantage I don't realy see paying $200 to $300 more for the v-club 
kit.  I was considering roland for a period of time and I'm very happy 
that I went with the dtxpress.  I've used mine on roughly 5 gigs a 
month for the past year and its been fantastic especially considering 
the cymbals.  I don't mix acoustic and electric.  Having cymbal sounds 
 that I can tailor to my own prefences to drive or cut or whatever I 
want them to do and still sound like a real cymbal is wonderful.


--- In DTXpress@y..., "okant" <okant@y...> wrote:
> Just a correction: New DTXpress (equipped with DTPK9A and RS60A) 
> comes with one dual zone snare (for rimshots) and one dual zone 
> cymbal (chokable).
> 
> I had the same dillemma for some time and after trying both I 
decided 
> on Yamaha. I believe there is an easily noticeable sound difference 
> (if not pads) between the two. To my ears Yamaha sounded more real 
> and Roland sounded more "refined" - not something particularly bad 
> but I felt something synthetic. You may as well like that "refined" 
> sound, it's best for you to try it for yourself.
> 
> Note that when auditioning I only compared normal drums sounds 
> (acoustic snares, toms, cymbals), I am not interested in latin 
sounds 
> or those wierd effects. So if you're mainly interested in these 
> sounds my comments do not apply.
> 
> Okan
> 
> --- In DTXpress@y..., "andy4tune" <andy4tune@y...> wrote:
> > --- In DTXpress@y..., "zmangames" <zmangames@h...> wrote:
> > > Hello!
> > > I´m going to buy a electric Kit.
> > > Whats the best choice, Yamaha DTXpress or Roland TD-6K?
> > > Please be serious, and going nuts chosing. Why costs TD-6K more?
> > > I´ll wait your comments!
> > > Thanks in advance!
> > > 
> > > Ricardo Teixeira
> > 
> > Ricardo -
> > 
> > I've just bought the Roland - but still like to check in here from 
> > time to time for general tips. The main difference is the dual 
zone 
> > cymbals and choking ability on the symbols. Also, the brain itself 
> is 
> > very easy to use on the fly - big buttons for changing the preset 
> > songs and kits (you can use a stick end rather than your finger).
> > I didn't really audition the DTX very well, but the sounds seemed 
> OK 
> > to me at the time. I'm very happy with the Roland sounds, but 
other 
> > than doing a direct comparison its difficult to say which is bets 
> for 
> > sounds. Sure the Roland is more expensive but the difference in 
> price 
> > for a couple of dual zone cymbals for the DTX might just make it 
> > about the same price - you still have to buy the bass drum pedal 
> for 
> > both so the price thats advertised is not the end of it. 
> > 
> > let your ears be the judge for the sound, and compare both at the 
> > same time for the ease of use. (PS I have loads of Yamaha gear so 
I 

> > have no particular brand favourite)
> > 
> > Good luck
> > 
> > Andy

I noticed the same, but I am leaning twoards buying the Roland TD6k -

The guy in my local store (I tried both kits) said that 
Roland "created" their sounds from scratch where-as (according to 
store guy) Yamaha went to the lengths of actually miking up their 
best acoustic kits and sampling them. I dont know how true this is.

I choose the roland TD6K in the end as I had the extra cash needed, 
and after seeing some of the problems mentioned here about the Kick, 
and volume probs. But if I was strapped for the cash the DTXpress 
would have won it on value. 

Heres wishing there was a group this good for Roland V drums !!

Take it easy all,
M

--- In DTXpress@y..., "palacki808" <palacki808@y...> wrote:
> I've played around with roland drums on several occasions and I've 
> always seemed to wonder about the sound quality.  The sound is a 
hair 
> too perfect.  At gigs the sound will catch someone's ear simply 
> because it sounds like a machine.  I've never heard a roland kit 
that 
> can reproduce an "acoustic" sound.  Yamaha is much closer in my 
> opinion.  The rubber "drum" pads on the roland kit have a better 
feel 
> than the yamaha, that's about all they have, those cymbal pads on 
it 
> are just terrible.  A yamaha pcy80s is much smoother in the 
tracking 
> and easier play in general.  With the roland pads being the only 
> advantage I don't realy see paying $200 to $300 more for the v-club 
> kit.  I was considering roland for a period of time and I'm very 
happy 
> that I went with the dtxpress.  I've used mine on roughly 5 gigs a 
> month for the past year and its been fantastic especially 
considering 
> the cymbals.  I don't mix acoustic and electric.  Having cymbal 
sounds 
>  that I can tailor to my own prefences to drive or cut or whatever 
I 
> want them to do and still sound like a real cymbal is wonderful.
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@y..., "okant" <okant@y...> wrote:
> > Just a correction: New DTXpress (equipped with DTPK9A and RS60A) 
> > comes with one dual zone snare (for rimshots) and one dual zone 
> > cymbal (chokable).
> > 
> > I had the same dillemma for some time and after trying both I 
> decided 
> > on Yamaha. I believe there is an easily noticeable sound 
difference 
> > (if not pads) between the two. To my ears Yamaha sounded more 
real 
> > and Roland sounded more "refined" - not something particularly 
bad 
> > but I felt something synthetic. You may as well like 
that "refined" 
> > sound, it's best for you to try it for yourself.
> > 
> > Note that when auditioning I only compared normal drums sounds 
> > (acoustic snares, toms, cymbals), I am not interested in latin 
> sounds 
> > or those wierd effects. So if you're mainly interested in these 
> > sounds my comments do not apply.
> > 
> > Okan
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@y..., "andy4tune" <andy4tune@y...> wrote:
> > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "zmangames" <zmangames@h...> wrote:
> > > > Hello!
> > > > I´m going to buy a electric Kit.
> > > > Whats the best choice, Yamaha DTXpress or Roland TD-6K?
> > > > Please be serious, and going nuts chosing. Why costs TD-6K 
more?
> > > > I´ll wait your comments!
> > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > > 
> > > > Ricardo Teixeira
> > > 
> > > Ricardo -
> > > 
> > > I've just bought the Roland - but still like to check in here 
from 
> > > time to time for general tips. The main difference is the dual 
> zone 
> > > cymbals and choking ability on the symbols. Also, the brain 
itself 
> > is 
> > > very easy to use on the fly - big buttons for changing the 
preset 
> > > songs and kits (you can use a stick end rather than your 
finger).
> > > I didn't really audition the DTX very well, but the sounds 
seemed 
> > OK 
> > > to me at the time. I'm very happy with the Roland sounds, but 
> other 
> > > than doing a direct comparison its difficult to say which is 
bets 
> > for 
> > > sounds. Sure the Roland is more expensive but the difference in 
> > price 
> > > for a couple of dual zone cymbals for the DTX might just make 
it 
> > > about the same price - you still have to buy the bass drum 
pedal 
> > for 
> > > both so the price thats advertised is not the end of it. 
> > > 
> > > let your ears be the judge for the sound, and compare both at 
the 
> > > same time for the ease of use. (PS I have loads of Yamaha gear 
so 

> I 
> > > have no particular brand favourite)
> > > 
> > > Good luck
> > > 
> > > Andy

Seriously, this group and subsequent web sites, are what sold me on the
DTXpress (and the price to an extent).  This board and DTXpressions are
great and I had a hard time finding any such site for the Roland.
Mine is ordered, and I ANXIOUSLY waiting for delivery!

numungbah wrote:

>  I noticed the same, but I am leaning twoards buying the Roland TD6k -
>
> The guy in my local store (I tried both kits) said that
> Roland "created" their sounds from scratch where-as (according to
> store guy) Yamaha went to the lengths of actually miking up their
> best acoustic kits and sampling them. I dont know how true this is.
>
> I choose the roland TD6K in the end as I had the extra cash needed,
> and after seeing some of the problems mentioned here about the Kick,
> and volume probs. But if I was strapped for the cash the DTXpress
> would have won it on value.
>
> Heres wishing there was a group this good for Roland V drums !!
>
> Take it easy all,
> M
>
> --- In DTXpress@y..., "palacki808" <palacki808@y...> wrote:
> > I've played around with roland drums on several occasions and I've
> > always seemed to wonder about the sound quality.  The sound is a
> hair
> > too perfect.  At gigs the sound will catch someone's ear simply
> > because it sounds like a machine.  I've never heard a roland kit
> that
> > can reproduce an "acoustic" sound.  Yamaha is much closer in my
> > opinion.  The rubber "drum" pads on the roland kit have a better
> feel
> > than the yamaha, that's about all they have, those cymbal pads on
> it
> > are just terrible.  A yamaha pcy80s is much smoother in the
> tracking
> > and easier play in general.  With the roland pads being the only
> > advantage I don't realy see paying $200 to $300 more for the v-club
> > kit.  I was considering roland for a period of time and I'm very
> happy
> > that I went with the dtxpress.  I've used mine on roughly 5 gigs a
> > month for the past year and its been fantastic especially
> considering
> > the cymbals.  I don't mix acoustic and electric.  Having cymbal
> sounds
> >  that I can tailor to my own prefences to drive or cut or whatever
> I
> > want them to do and still sound like a real cymbal is wonderful.
> >
> >
> > --- In DTXpress@y..., "okant" <okant@y...> wrote:
> > > Just a correction: New DTXpress (equipped with DTPK9A and RS60A)
> > > comes with one dual zone snare (for rimshots) and one dual zone
> > > cymbal (chokable).
> > >
> > > I had the same dillemma for some time and after trying both I
> > decided
> > > on Yamaha. I believe there is an easily noticeable sound
> difference
> > > (if not pads) between the two. To my ears Yamaha sounded more
> real
> > > and Roland sounded more "refined" - not something particularly
> bad
> > > but I felt something synthetic. You may as well like
> that "refined"
> > > sound, it's best for you to try it for yourself.
> > >
> > > Note that when auditioning I only compared normal drums sounds
> > > (acoustic snares, toms, cymbals), I am not interested in latin
> > sounds
> > > or those wierd effects. So if you're mainly interested in these
> > > sounds my comments do not apply.
> > >
> > > Okan
> > >
> > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "andy4tune" <andy4tune@y...> wrote:
> > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "zmangames" <zmangames@h...> wrote:
> > > > > Hello!
> > > > > I\ufffdm going to buy a electric Kit.
> > > > > Whats the best choice, Yamaha DTXpress or Roland TD-6K?
> > > > > Please be serious, and going nuts chosing. Why costs TD-6K
> more?
> > > > > I\ufffdll wait your comments!
> > > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > > >
> > > > > Ricardo Teixeira
> > > >
> > > > Ricardo -
> > > >
> > > > I've just bought the Roland - but still like to check in here
> from
> > > > time to time for general tips. The main difference is the dual
> > zone
> > > > cymbals and choking ability on the symbols. Also, the brain
> itself
> > > is
> > > > very easy to use on the fly - big buttons for changing the
> preset
> > > > songs and kits (you can use a stick end rather than your
> finger).
> > > > I didn't really audition the DTX very well, but the sounds
> seemed
> > > OK
> > > > to me at the time. I'm very happy with the Roland sounds, but
> > other
> > > > than doing a direct comparison its difficult to say which is
> bets
> > > for
> > > > sounds. Sure the Roland is more expensive but the difference in
> > > price
> > > > for a couple of dual zone cymbals for the DTX might just make
> it
> > > > about the same price - you still have to buy the bass drum
> pedal
> > > for
> > > > both so the price thats advertised is not the end of it.
> > > >
> > > > let your ears be the judge for the sound, and compare both at
> the
> > > > same time for the ease of use. (PS I have loads of Yamaha gear
> so
> > I
> > > > have no particular brand favourite)
> > > >
> > > > Good luck
> > > >
> > > > Andy
>
>
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