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How Do I Use Rim/Pad inputs on 1-8?

How Do I Use Rim/Pad inputs on 1-8?

2003-01-14 by Gary <rock_n_4jesus@yahoo.com>

Ok...I'm a little cornfused here! Inputs 1-8 on the back of the 
module are stereo...L-Pad...R-Rim. Correct? Does this mean if I want 
to add more pads that I just use a stereo input adapter plug? EX: I 
tried to use a 1/4 stereo plug and I placed it into Input 2. I then 
branched off to my Normal Snare..and then one to Hi-Hat. It shows 
trigger input from snare (pad2), but not hi-hat pad (which I thought 
it would be the rim2 input). IF I reverse the wires..naturally it 
shows the other way around. All its looking for is a trigger input 
right? Is there something I am suppose to do in the setup of the 
module? I guess in short I'm asking..whats the difference in buying a 
stereo cymbal..etc.,. with rim capabilities and me just adding other 
pads via channel 1-8? I'm trying to build a monster kit here! lol. 

Thanks In Advance,

Gary 

P.S. If I can add on 1-8 with pad1,rim1,etc.,. then wouldn't that 
give me a total of 16 inputs? Plus 9/10. Makes 18..not counting the 
hi-hat pedal..etc.,. About 24 total isn't there?

Re: How Do I Use Rim/Pad inputs on 1-8?

2003-01-14 by liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@yahoo.com>

"Stereo" is really a misnomer for inputs 1-8. What the term 
designates in e-drum parlance is an input that handles a pad or 
cymbal with a piezo trigger for the body and a switch for the rim.  
The switch section of the input cannot be swapped out to an 
independent pad; it must belong to a single pad that has a piezo 
trigger as well. In other words, "stereo" in this context does not 
translate into a left/right situation. Think of "stereo" pads as 
mono rubber pads with an attitude, not as dual-zone pads with two 
separately triggered bodies. Dual-zone pads, with two piezos, 
require two distinct mono inputs, or two distinct "stereo" ones (the 
rim switch doesn't count as a fully independent mono trigger), or 
inputs 9/10 via a splitter. Only one of their voices will sound on a 
stereo input with a stereo cable or with a splitter. If you want to 
build a killer kit with 16 pads (or, more precisely, 16 piezos or 
FSR triggers), you'll need either another module and a mixer or some 
sort of midi interface that can go through your module (like 
Roland's current TMC-6, former PM-16, or Kat's old midiKITI, but 
that's another kettle of fish. Aren't you glad you asked?

Ed
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Gary <rock_n_4jesus@y...>" 
<rock_n_4jesus@y...> wrote:
> Ok...I'm a little cornfused here! Inputs 1-8 on the back of the 
> module are stereo...L-Pad...R-Rim. Correct? Does this mean if I 
want 
> to add more pads that I just use a stereo input adapter plug? EX: 
I 
> tried to use a 1/4 stereo plug and I placed it into Input 2. I 
then 
> branched off to my Normal Snare..and then one to Hi-Hat. It shows 
> trigger input from snare (pad2), but not hi-hat pad (which I 
thought 
> it would be the rim2 input). IF I reverse the wires..naturally it 
> shows the other way around. All its looking for is a trigger input 
> right? Is there something I am suppose to do in the setup of the 
> module? I guess in short I'm asking..whats the difference in 
buying a 
> stereo cymbal..etc.,. with rim capabilities and me just adding 
other 
> pads via channel 1-8? I'm trying to build a monster kit here! lol. 
> 
> Thanks In Advance,
> 
> Gary 
> 
> P.S. If I can add on 1-8 with pad1,rim1,etc.,. then wouldn't that 
> give me a total of 16 inputs? Plus 9/10. Makes 18..not counting 
the 
> hi-hat pedal..etc.,. About 24 total isn't there?

Re: How Do I Use Rim/Pad inputs on 1-8?

2003-01-14 by Gary <rock_n_4jesus@yahoo.com>

Oh yea..I'm glad I asked! lol. Now you got me thinking of a way to 
design a small switch/trigger box to work with the pad (In stereo 
right?) lol, just so I can make it work. I am already in the process 
of building some new pads myself to work with 9/10. My goal is just 
to make this kit more versatile. Oh by the way, I made a recording 
with the dtx this weekend. Really liked the sound...so much bang for 
the dollar. Another thing..I'm not a drummer..so I had my friend (WHO 
IS) a drummer sit down on it..and he really liked it alot. Was 
impressed with the response and velocity the module had carried. 
Maybe I'll post the recording on my website sometime. Well, gotta 
go..but I'm sure you'll see more from me again with more lame brain 
mega drumset ideas. lol.

Gary 

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
<liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> "Stereo" is really a misnomer for inputs 1-8. What the term 
> designates in e-drum parlance is an input that handles a pad or 
> cymbal with a piezo trigger for the body and a switch for the rim.  
> The switch section of the input cannot be swapped out to an 
> independent pad; it must belong to a single pad that has a piezo 
> trigger as well. In other words, "stereo" in this context does not 
> translate into a left/right situation. Think of "stereo" pads as 
> mono rubber pads with an attitude, not as dual-zone pads with two 
> separately triggered bodies. Dual-zone pads, with two piezos, 
> require two distinct mono inputs, or two distinct "stereo" ones 
(the 
> rim switch doesn't count as a fully independent mono trigger), or 
> inputs 9/10 via a splitter. Only one of their voices will sound on 
a 
> stereo input with a stereo cable or with a splitter. If you want to 
> build a killer kit with 16 pads (or, more precisely, 16 piezos or 
> FSR triggers), you'll need either another module and a mixer or 
some 
> sort of midi interface that can go through your module (like 
> Roland's current TMC-6, former PM-16, or Kat's old midiKITI, but 
> that's another kettle of fish. Aren't you glad you asked?
> 
> Ed
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Gary <rock_n_4jesus@y...>" 
> <rock_n_4jesus@y...> wrote:
> > Ok...I'm a little cornfused here! Inputs 1-8 on the back of the 
> > module are stereo...L-Pad...R-Rim. Correct? Does this mean if I 
> want 
> > to add more pads that I just use a stereo input adapter plug? EX: 
> I 
> > tried to use a 1/4 stereo plug and I placed it into Input 2. I 
> then 
> > branched off to my Normal Snare..and then one to Hi-Hat. It shows 
> > trigger input from snare (pad2), but not hi-hat pad (which I 
> thought 
> > it would be the rim2 input). IF I reverse the wires..naturally it 
> > shows the other way around. All its looking for is a trigger 
input 
> > right? Is there something I am suppose to do in the setup of the 
> > module? I guess in short I'm asking..whats the difference in 
> buying a 
> > stereo cymbal..etc.,. with rim capabilities and me just adding 
> other 
> > pads via channel 1-8? I'm trying to build a monster kit here! 
lol. 
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> > 
> > Thanks In Advance,
> > 
> > Gary 
> > 
> > P.S. If I can add on 1-8 with pad1,rim1,etc.,. then wouldn't that 
> > give me a total of 16 inputs? Plus 9/10. Makes 18..not counting 
> the 
> > hi-hat pedal..etc.,. About 24 total isn't there?

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