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2000-02-29 by pdk
Played my first bar gig with the digi-kit on Saturday. Anyone interested in my observations? ========================================================================= pete Hot Java, Cool Tunes: Visit Caf\ufffd Pierre www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/4024/
2000-02-29 by gpcollins7@aol.com
In a message dated 29/2/2000 17:48:35, pdk@... writes: <<Played my first bar gig with the digi-kit on Saturday. Anyone interested in my observations?>> Very, fire away. Cheers Graham
2000-02-29 by Ben Hall
pdk <pdk@...> wrote: > Played my first bar gig with the digi-kit on Saturday. > Anyone interested in my observations? Of course! :) Ben Hall www.benhall.co.uk Akai DPS12 FAQ, Wavestation Info & Sounds
2000-02-29 by pdk
The band was a bunch of old-timers who heard about me through my boss and asked me to sit in at a pub gig. The song list was fifties rock n roll, some r&b with some MOR crap. Not bad all in all. To practice, I found a few of the songs on CD, and the rest I dug up on the internet as MP3s. I ran a lead from my mac to the DTX and played the MP3s with Audion which worked pretty well. Not CD quality but good enough to learn the rhythm and the changes. I prepared three kits, a jazzy one, a pop rock one, and a bluesy one. The band's singer assured me ahead of time that the bar had a really good PA and speakers used by bands all the time, and that I could plug my kit straight in. The pub was larger than I expected, more of a bar or roadhouse. I thought the band members might sneer at my non-traditional set-up but it was quite the opposite. They thought "robo kit" as they called it, was totally cool. Unfortunately, the house-guy who was supposed to know how to run the sound system proved pretty inept, and I was not satisfied with the sound check at all. Finally I just said forget it, and got my own amp and speakers out of the van. Luckily I'd been uncharacteristically smart enough to bring them (even though they're old and tired), in case the house PA didn't pan out. Good lesson. It was a lot of fun after that. The guys proved to be very experienced, and very talented. The kit performed well, although my crash symbol stopped dual zoning towards the end, even after rebooting. It's fine now, mysteriously. My overall playing volume was lower than my acoustic kit would have produced un-miked, meaning that the guitar players and keyboard guy didn't have to crank their amps. At one point the singer asked me to turn down a bit for a slow number, and I happily obliged (try that with acoustics). I played along using the brushes-on-snare sound effect and the guys were just blown away. On the down-side, my kit just reeked of smoke and booze when I got it home, and someone spilled a full Killkenny on my carpet (okay, it was me). I learned that my kit doesn't sound as good through my old speakers as it does through headphones, so I'm going to audition some new bins. Especially since I'll be taking them with me from now on. The other thing I learned is that I'm going to have to bone-up on sound systems. As a drummer I used to let someone else worry about it. But now I think it's my responsibility to know how to tinker with the mixer. In hindsight, I think the bar speakers may have been powered units, and the guy was just too dumb to turn them on. Anyway, the old-timers want me to gig again next month, so I guess the Yammy passed the test. ========================================================================= pete Hot Java, Cool Tunes: Visit Caf\ufffd Pierre www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/4024/
> From: pdk <pdk@...> > Reply-To: DTXpress@onelist.com > Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:49:48 -0500 > To: <DTXpress@onelist.com> > Subject: [DTXpress] Played live...want to hear about it? > > From: pdk <pdk@...> > > Played my first bar gig with the digi-kit on Saturday. Anyone interested in > my observations? > > > ========================================================================= > > pete > > Hot Java, Cool Tunes: Visit Caf\ufffd Pierre www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/4024/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Free Long Distance, Free CD, Free Headset! > http://click.egroups.com/1/1993/5/_/643449/_/951846402/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Community email addresses: > Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com > List owner: DTXpress-owner@onelist.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress > >
2000-02-29 by gpcollins7@aol.com
In a message dated 29/2/2000 21:17:43, pdk@... writes: <<To practice, I found a few of the songs on CD, and the rest I dug up on the internet as MP3s. I ran a lead from my mac to the DTX >> Thanks for that great and useful review! Being new to this, what would I need to do the above ( I have an iMac ) Cheers Graham
2000-03-01 by pdk
Easy... Go to macdownload.com and get Audion or SoundAp mp3 software and load it up. Now spend countless fruitful and frustrating hours scouring the web for MP3 files, and download them to your hard drive. I use AltaVista's audio finder. Create an Audion or SoundAp playlist by dragging your mp3 file selections into the playlist window, and save it. I'm not sure if the ports on the iMac are the same as on my ancient 7100 but...run a cable with stereo mini jacks on both ends (cheap) from your iMac's headphone jack (or speaker output?) to the DTXpress module's aux in jack on the front. Run the playlist, adjust the module's aux in and main volume levels, and jam. Let me know if it works for you. ========================================================================= pete Hot Java, Cool Tunes: Visit Caf\ufffd Pierre www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/4024/
> > In a message dated 29/2/2000 21:17:43, pdk@... writes: > > <<To practice, I found a few of the songs on CD, and the rest I dug up on the > > internet as MP3s. I ran a lead from my mac to the DTX >> > > Thanks for that great and useful review! > Being new to this, what would I need to do the above ( I have an iMac ) > > Cheers > > Graham >
2000-03-01 by pdk
One more thing I forgot to mention... While Joe sound goof was struggling with the mixer I was stuck behind the kit tapping the pads. Duh. I should have just run a decent pattern with hat, snare, kick and crash (like #5) which would have freed me up to get behind the board myself, and also see what I sound like in the audience. What a great feature! A real out of body experience. The downside is that the other band members might say "What do we need the drummer for? You and your rack can go home, but leave us the module." At which point you fire up one of the preset songs, and the rich awesome musicality (like Citydogs) will totally blow away the club owner prompting him to send all the musicians home. I'm kidding. p.s.: Just because Canada won the gold cup soccer tourney last weekend don't get to thinking we've become a nation of sissies. We could have taken any team there in bench clearing brawl too, if we had to. :) ========================================================================= pete Hot Java, Cool Tunes: Visit Caf\ufffd Pierre www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/4024/
> From: pdk <pdk@...> > Reply-To: DTXpress@onelist.com > Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:42:41 -0500 > To: <DTXpress@onelist.com> > Subject: Re: [DTXpress] Played live...want to hear about it? > > From: pdk <pdk@...> > > The band was a bunch of old-timers who heard about me through my boss and > asked me to sit in at a pub gig. The song list was fifties rock n roll, > some r&b with some MOR crap. Not bad all in all. > > To practice, I found a few of the songs on CD, and the rest I dug up on the > internet as MP3s. I ran a lead from my mac to the DTX and played the MP3s > with Audion which worked pretty well. Not CD quality but good enough to > learn the rhythm and the changes. > > I prepared three kits, a jazzy one, a pop rock one, and a bluesy one. > > The band's singer assured me ahead of time that the bar had a really good PA > and speakers used by bands all the time, and that I could plug my kit > straight in. > > The pub was larger than I expected, more of a bar or roadhouse. I thought > the band members might sneer at my non-traditional set-up but it was quite > the opposite. They thought "robo kit" as they called it, was totally cool. > > Unfortunately, the house-guy who was supposed to know how to run the sound > system proved pretty inept, and I was not satisfied with the sound check at > all. > > Finally I just said forget it, and got my own amp and speakers out of the > van. Luckily I'd been uncharacteristically smart enough to bring them (even > though they're old and tired), in case the house PA didn't pan out. Good > lesson. > > It was a lot of fun after that. The guys proved to be very experienced, and > very talented. The kit performed well, although my crash symbol stopped dual > zoning towards the end, even after rebooting. It's fine now, mysteriously. > > My overall playing volume was lower than my acoustic kit would have produced > un-miked, meaning that the guitar players and keyboard guy didn't have to > crank their amps. At one point the singer asked me to turn down a bit for a > slow number, and I happily obliged (try that with acoustics). I played along > using the brushes-on-snare sound effect and the guys were just blown away. > > On the down-side, my kit just reeked of smoke and booze when I got it home, > and someone spilled a full Killkenny on my carpet (okay, it was me). > > I learned that my kit doesn't sound as good through my old speakers as it > does through headphones, so I'm going to audition some new bins. Especially > since I'll be taking them with me from now on. > > The other thing I learned is that I'm going to have to bone-up on sound > systems. As a drummer I used to let someone else worry about it. But now I > think it's my responsibility to know how to tinker with the mixer. In > hindsight, I think the bar speakers may have been powered units, and the guy > was just too dumb to turn them on. > > Anyway, the old-timers want me to gig again next month, so I guess the Yammy > passed the test. > > > ========================================================================= > > pete > > Hot Java, Cool Tunes: Visit Caf\ufffd Pierre www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/4024/ > >> From: pdk <pdk@...> >> Reply-To: DTXpress@onelist.com >> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:49:48 -0500 >> To: <DTXpress@onelist.com> >> Subject: [DTXpress] Played live...want to hear about it? >> >> From: pdk <pdk@...> >> >> Played my first bar gig with the digi-kit on Saturday. Anyone interested in >> my observations? >> >> >> ========================================================================= >> >> pete >> >> Hot Java, Cool Tunes: Visit Caf\ufffd Pierre www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/4024/ >> >> >
2000-03-03 by pdk
One more tip... I have found that the shorter the cord between the module and the amp the better the sound. When I connected the two with a 30 foot speaker cable the background buzz was intolerable, but with a ten foot guitar cable it was fine. So, put the amp near the kit, and then run long cables to the speakers. ========================================================================= pete Hot Java, Cool Tunes: Visit Caf\ufffd Pierre www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/4024/
2000-03-03 by Brow, Paul [LTS]
Speaker cables are generally not screened.....so more likely the reason for the buzz Paul Brow p.brow@...
> -----Original Message----- > From: pdk [SMTP:pdk@...] > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 2:16 PM > To: DTXpress@onelist.com > Subject: Re: [DTXpress] Played live...want to hear about it? > > From: pdk <pdk@...> > > One more tip... > > I have found that the shorter the cord between the module and the amp the > better the sound. When I connected the two with a 30 foot speaker cable the > background buzz was intolerable, but with a ten foot guitar cable it was > fine. > > So, put the amp near the kit, and then run long cables to the speakers. >
2000-03-03 by pdk
Good point. ========================================================================= pete Hot Java, Cool Tunes: Visit Caf\ufffd Pierre www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/4024/
> From: "Brow, Paul [LTS]" <p.brow@...> > Reply-To: DTXpress@onelist.com > Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 15:07:01 -0000 > To: "'DTXpress@onelist.com'" <DTXpress@onelist.com> > Subject: RE: [DTXpress] Played live...want to hear about it? > > From: "Brow, Paul [LTS]" <p.brow@...> > > Speaker cables are generally not screened.....so more likely the reason for > the buzz > > Paul Brow > p.brow@... > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pdk [SMTP:pdk@...] >> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 2:16 PM >> To: DTXpress@onelist.com >> Subject: Re: [DTXpress] Played live...want to hear about it? >> >> From: pdk <pdk@...> >> >> One more tip... >> >> I have found that the shorter the cord between the module and the amp the >> better the sound. When I connected the two with a 30 foot speaker cable the >> background buzz was intolerable, but with a ten foot guitar cable it was >> fine. >> >> So, put the amp near the kit, and then run long cables to the speakers.