Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

> Hi All,
> 
> I just got of the phone with Martin (he says Hi
> everyone), and we have confirmed that the xpress II
> uses the Drum map the same way that the xpress I did. 
> He tested driving a MIDI note number (from his
> external source) that was not assigned to a pad, and
> was also able to assign any xpress sound to that note
> number - all through the Drum Map - not through the
> voice menu.  
> 
> What this confirms is that the process we used on the
> xpress I to set up a PM-16 for example, should be the
> same for xpress IIs.
> 
> UNH - the only thing Martin could suggest for you is
> to go through a reset of your xpress II (be sure you
> copy your user settings first).  When he was working
> with Jade he found that a reset was necessary, as the
> xpress II was not responding to anything on channel 10
> (this is why he had changed local control, and had
> Jade plug MIDI out to MIDI in on the xpressII - to see
> if it was responding) - the reset enabled the xpress
> II to respond to channel 10.
> If that doesn't take care of it, Martin says give him
> a call and he'll work with you.
> 
> Walt
> --- "liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@y...>"
> <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > From: "liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@y...>"
> > <liberatusvirus@y...>
> > Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:19:12 -0000
> > Subject: [DTXpress] Re: PROBLEM SOLVED...HEARD FROM
> > MARTIN @ YAMAHA
> > 
> > Walt,
> > 
> > I've advised Jade to ask Martin how to make sure
> > that note numbers 
> > from the dtxII saved on an external device don't get
> > different 
> > voices when kits change on the dtxII. That's the
> > sticky point. You 
> > and I used the utility menu to find unassigned notes
> > that we could 
> > use. Is Martin suggesting otherwise? That would be a
> > change. But 
> > then what use is the note-changing facility in the
> > utilty menu? So 
> > now both Jade and Walt have similar messages out to
> > Martin. Because, 
> > as it stands now, we haven't eliminated all of the
> > confusion.
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Walt <wgardus@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Jade,
> > > 
> > > As I read through your note I get the impression
> > that
> > > Yamaha did make a good change between xpress I and
> > > xpress II that may be of interest to other's in
> > the
> > > group who had contemplated adding MIDI > Trigger
> > > interfaces - and that is how the drum map is used.
> >  
> > > 
> > > If I am interpreting this correctly it is a good
> > > change (Scott, if you're reading this it could be
> > a
> > > change from what we talked about last night),
> > because
> > > it would mean that the xpress II can now save the
> > MIDI
> > > note numbers for externally connected pads within
> > a
> > > user drum kit.  The xpress I only saved locally
> > > attached pad voice assignments in the user kit.  
> > > 
> > > I think I'll put a call into Martin to confirm
> > this.
> > > Walt  
> > > --- "Jade <jadiebooshkie@y...>"
> > > <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > Guys,
> > > > I just got off the phone with Martin, Yamaha's
> > Midi
> > > > Guru for the DTX.
> > > > What he had me do was check the DTX module, by
> > > > taking a midi cable, 
> > > > and plugging it from the midi out to midi in, I
> > then
> > > > went to UT mode 
> > > > to the on UT MIDI SETUP...he had me TURN *OFF
> > the
> > > > Loc1=...then we 
> > > > went to kit1, I hit the pad...we got nothing,
> > after
> > > > that, we did a 
> > > > FACTORY RESET.  I then plugged the DTXII MIDI IN
> > to
> > > > the KITI MIDI 
> > > > OUT...went to kit #1 then MADE SURE the KITI was
> > set
> > > > to CH 10, and I 
> > > > assigned a MIDI note to the KITI of 0-5-1 to
> > input 1
> > > > where my ride 
> > > > cymbal is connected, I then tapped the cymbal,
> > and
> > > > VOILA'...I GOT A 
> > > > RIDE CYMBAL SOUND!!
> > > > He told me I do NOT use the UTILITY mode to set
> > the
> > > > notes for any 
> > > > pads I have plugged into the KITI,  I can just
> > go
> > > > into the VOICE 
> > > > menu for a certain KIT and find a note for a
> > > > specific pad, and 
> > > > manually assign it to the KITI.  We will see
> > what
> > > > happens when I 
> > > > plug other pads in, and as soon as my clamps
> > come
> > > > in, I will be able 
> > > > to test this along with the bell of my Visulite.
> > > > Walt and Underneatheaven...I HOPE this works for
> > > > you.  If not, 
> > > > please call Yamaha, their direct number (ya
> > gotta
> > > > pay for the call) 
> > > > is (714)522-9000 California time...they open
> > from
> > > > 8-5...ASK FOR 
> > > > MARTIN- THE MIDI APPS SPECIALIST!!!  The toll
> > free
> > > > number is 1-888-
> > > > 892-6242, you will have to speak to the operator
> > at
> > > > Yamaha, tell 
> > > > them you need to speak with the above mentioned
> > guy.
> > > >  Do NOT be 
> > > > surprised if you are assigned a case number, and
> > > > have to wait a day 
> > > > or so...they WILL get back to you.  If any of
> > you
> > > > guys have 
> > > > questions, please feel free to contact me via
> > this
> > > > forum.
> > > > We now KNOW there is NO flaw in the DTXII, it is
> > > > speaking the same 
> > > > lingo as the Midi Kiti...and let's all hope and
> > pray
> > > > that it works 
> > > > for UNH, and his PM-16,and the other guys who
> > are
> > > > experiencing the 
> > > > same problems we had.
> > > > One more thing...I have to praise Yamaha for
> > their
> > > > customer service 
> > > > support that I received.  More than once they
> > have
> > > > returned my 
> > > > calls, and helped me out when a pad died.  That
> > is
> > > > more than what I 
> > > > hear thru the grapevine about Roland.  I think
> > we
> > > > should all feel a 
> > > > sense of satisfaction and security that we are
> > with
> > > > Yamaha (they 
> > > > also make good motorcycles), and that they care
> > > > about their DTX 
> > > > customers.  In this day and age, that is hard to
> > > > find in the 
> > > > corporate world!
> > > > I also whish to again say a great big THANK YOU
> > to
> > > > Walt and Ed and 
> > > > the rest of you guys for your troubleshooting
> > > > skills, encouragement 
> > > > and concern, and patience- it can't be said
> > enough
> > > > times that you 
> > > > ALL are a great bunch of guys, and I am very
> > proud
> > > > to be a member of 
> > > > this group!
> > > > With much humble appreciation,
> > > > Jade
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> 
> 
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> I'm going to call Martin anyways, I need to personally talk to him.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Walt <wgardus@y...> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I just got of the phone with Martin (he says Hi
> > everyone), and we have confirmed that the xpress II
> > uses the Drum map the same way that the xpress I did. 
> > He tested driving a MIDI note number (from his
> > external source) that was not assigned to a pad, and
> > was also able to assign any xpress sound to that note
> > number - all through the Drum Map - not through the
> > voice menu.  
> > 
> > What this confirms is that the process we used on the
> > xpress I to set up a PM-16 for example, should be the
> > same for xpress IIs.
> > 
> > UNH - the only thing Martin could suggest for you is
> > to go through a reset of your xpress II (be sure you
> > copy your user settings first).  When he was working
> > with Jade he found that a reset was necessary, as the
> > xpress II was not responding to anything on channel 10
> > (this is why he had changed local control, and had
> > Jade plug MIDI out to MIDI in on the xpressII - to see
> > if it was responding) - the reset enabled the xpress
> > II to respond to channel 10.
> > If that doesn't take care of it, Martin says give him
> > a call and he'll work with you.
> > 
> > Walt
> > --- "liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@y...>"
> > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: "liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@y...>"
> > > <liberatusvirus@y...>
> > > Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:19:12 -0000
> > > Subject: [DTXpress] Re: PROBLEM SOLVED...HEARD FROM
> > > MARTIN @ YAMAHA
> > > 
> > > Walt,
> > > 
> > > I've advised Jade to ask Martin how to make sure
> > > that note numbers 
> > > from the dtxII saved on an external device don't get
> > > different 
> > > voices when kits change on the dtxII. That's the
> > > sticky point. You 
> > > and I used the utility menu to find unassigned notes
> > > that we could 
> > > use. Is Martin suggesting otherwise? That would be a
> > > change. But 
> > > then what use is the note-changing facility in the
> > > utilty menu? So 
> > > now both Jade and Walt have similar messages out to
> > > Martin. Because, 
> > > as it stands now, we haven't eliminated all of the
> > > confusion.
> > > 
> > > Ed
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Walt <wgardus@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi Jade,
> > > > 
> > > > As I read through your note I get the impression
> > > that
> > > > Yamaha did make a good change between xpress I and
> > > > xpress II that may be of interest to other's in
> > > the
> > > > group who had contemplated adding MIDI > Trigger
> > > > interfaces - and that is how the drum map is used.
> > >  
> > > > 
> > > > If I am interpreting this correctly it is a good
> > > > change (Scott, if you're reading this it could be
> > > a
> > > > change from what we talked about last night),
> > > because
> > > > it would mean that the xpress II can now save the
> > > MIDI
> > > > note numbers for externally connected pads within
> > > a
> > > > user drum kit.  The xpress I only saved locally
> > > > attached pad voice assignments in the user kit.  
> > > > 
> > > > I think I'll put a call into Martin to confirm
> > > this.
> > > > Walt  
> > > > --- "Jade <jadiebooshkie@y...>"
> > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Guys,
> > > > > I just got off the phone with Martin, Yamaha's
> > > Midi
> > > > > Guru for the DTX.
> > > > > What he had me do was check the DTX module, by
> > > > > taking a midi cable, 
> > > > > and plugging it from the midi out to midi in, I
> > > then
> > > > > went to UT mode 
> > > > > to the on UT MIDI SETUP...he had me TURN *OFF
> > > the
> > > > > Loc1=...then we 
> > > > > went to kit1, I hit the pad...we got nothing,
> > > after
> > > > > that, we did a 
> > > > > FACTORY RESET.  I then plugged the DTXII MIDI IN
> > > to
> > > > > the KITI MIDI 
> > > > > OUT...went to kit #1 then MADE SURE the KITI was
> > > set
> > > > > to CH 10, and I 
> > > > > assigned a MIDI note to the KITI of 0-5-1 to
> > > input 1
> > > > > where my ride 
> > > > > cymbal is connected, I then tapped the cymbal,
> > > and
> > > > > VOILA'...I GOT A 
> > > > > RIDE CYMBAL SOUND!!
> > > > > He told me I do NOT use the UTILITY mode to set
> > > the
> > > > > notes for any 
> > > > > pads I have plugged into the KITI,  I can just
> > > go
> > > > > into the VOICE 
> > > > > menu for a certain KIT and find a note for a
> > > > > specific pad, and 
> > > > > manually assign it to the KITI.  We will see
> > > what
> > > > > happens when I 
> > > > > plug other pads in, and as soon as my clamps
> > > come
> > > > > in, I will be able 
> > > > > to test this along with the bell of my Visulite.
> > > > > Walt and Underneatheaven...I HOPE this works for
> > > > > you.  If not, 
> > > > > please call Yamaha, their direct number (ya
> > > gotta
> > > > > pay for the call) 
> > > > > is (714)522-9000 California time...they open
> > > from
> > > > > 8-5...ASK FOR 
> > > > > MARTIN- THE MIDI APPS SPECIALIST!!!  The toll
> > > free
> > > > > number is 1-888-
> > > > > 892-6242, you will have to speak to the operator
> > > at
> > > > > Yamaha, tell 
> > > > > them you need to speak with the above mentioned
> > > guy.
> > > > >  Do NOT be 
> > > > > surprised if you are assigned a case number, and
> > > > > have to wait a day 
> > > > > or so...they WILL get back to you.  If any of
> > > you
> > > > > guys have 
> > > > > questions, please feel free to contact me via
> > > this
> > > > > forum.
> > > > > We now KNOW there is NO flaw in the DTXII, it is
> > > > > speaking the same 
> > > > > lingo as the Midi Kiti...and let's all hope and
> > > pray
> > > > > that it works 
> > > > > for UNH, and his PM-16,and the other guys who
> > > are
> > > > > experiencing the 
> > > > > same problems we had.
> > > > > One more thing...I have to praise Yamaha for
> > > their
> > > > > customer service 
> > > > > support that I received.  More than once they
> > > have
> > > > > returned my 
> > > > > calls, and helped me out when a pad died.  That
> > > is
> > > > > more than what I 
> > > > > hear thru the grapevine about Roland.  I think
> > > we
> > > > > should all feel a 
> > > > > sense of satisfaction and security that we are
> > > with
> > > > > Yamaha (they 
> > > > > also make good motorcycles), and that they care
> > > > > about their DTX 
> > > > > customers.  In this day and age, that is hard to
> > > > > find in the 
> > > > > corporate world!
> > > > > I also whish to again say a great big THANK YOU
> > > to
> > > > > Walt and Ed and 
> > > > > the rest of you guys for your troubleshooting
> > > > > skills, encouragement 
> > > > > and concern, and patience- it can't be said
> > > enough
> > > > > times that you 
> > > > > ALL are a great bunch of guys, and I am very
> > > proud
> > > > > to be a member of 
> > > > > this group!
> > > > > With much humble appreciation,
> > > > > Jade
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > __________________________________________________
> > > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more
> > > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more
> > http://taxes.yahoo.com/