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Low Cost Sound Dampening Platform instructions

Low Cost Sound Dampening Platform instructions

2003-03-16 by Vernon Graner

I know this has been a topic on many an occasion, and recently (after
describing the problem to an engineer friend of mine), he came up with a
very inexpensive and amazingly effective way to isolate your kit from
your environment when practicing. Since I didn't think you folks would
appreciate 6.5megs of JPG's plastered into the list ;), I made up a web
page with the images he referres to here:

http://www.dtxpressions.com/platform/platform.htm

Have a look :)

-- 
Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network is down, then you're
Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent so why are we
Texas Information Services  | paying you? Of course, if the network
vern@... www.txis.com  | is up, then we obviously don't need
Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Sound Dampening Platform
From: Bob <bob@...>
Date: Fri, March 14, 2003 10:16 pm
To: vern@...


  Vern,
Here is the concept on how the make a sound dampening platform
for your drum kit. This platform is made with 1/2 thick plywood and
tennis balls. Tools needed are a saw, electric drill, drill bit, and a 1
3/4 hole saw.

Two additional items will need to be figured out.

   1. How big to make the make the pieces of plywood so all the gear
and YOU will fit comfortably on the base.

    2. In certain areas there will be more weight on the base, as where
a heavy person will sit.  In these areas a few extra tennis balls can be
added to support the extra load. These can always be added later.

   The pictures show small pieces of plywood.  This is for example
only. A real platform will be much larger.

   Pic-1.  Mark the corner of both pieces of plywood with and x.  This
is so you can match the orientation of the 2 pieces later.  Mark the top
piece of wood with marks where you want the tennis balls to be. Balls
about 12 to 16  inches apart offer plenty of support.

   Pic-2.  Clamp or screw the 2 pieces of wood together.

   Pic-3.  Drill a 1/4"  pilot hole at the marks for the balls.

   Pic-4   With a 1 3/4" hole saw drill holes at all of the pilot holes
made
           in Pic-3.  Hints:  Drill through ONLY 1 piece of wood at a
time.

Raise the hole saw briefly while drilling to clear the
cutting  teeth of the hole saw. Do the clearing after every
10 to 15 seconds of drilling. This makes drilling go faster.

   Pic-5.  Remove the cut plug from the hole saw after each cut.

   Pic-6.  Drill all the holes in both pieces of wood.

   Pic-7.  Place the tennis balls on the bottom piece of wood.

   Pic-8 & 9. Place the top piece of wood on the tennis balls.

An additional 3rd piece of plywood can be placed on top to
give a smooth walking surface. The two top pieces of plywood can fastened
together with some short wood screws and a little Elmers white glue.

These little pieces of 1/2" plywood and 4 tennis balls I used in
these pictures easily supports me standing on it and I weight 200lbs.

So spread this around on the drum forum.  It is easy to make and
works well. :)

Bob Sheldon, Austin Texas.

Re: Low Cost Sound Dampening Platform instructions

2003-07-02 by prog_uk

Has anyone tried this yet?

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon Graner" <vern@t...> wrote:
> I know this has been a topic on many an occasion, and recently 
(after
> describing the problem to an engineer friend of mine), he came up 
with a
> very inexpensive and amazingly effective way to isolate your kit 
from
> your environment when practicing. Since I didn't think you folks 
would
> appreciate 6.5megs of JPG's plastered into the list ;), I made up a 
web
> page with the images he referres to here:
> 
> http://www.dtxpressions.com/platform/platform.htm
> 
> Have a look :)
> 
> -- 
> Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network is down, then you're
> Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent so why are we
> Texas Information Services  | paying you? Of course, if the network
> vern@t... www.txis.com  | is up, then we obviously don't need
> Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Sound Dampening Platform
> From: Bob <bob@s...>
> Date: Fri, March 14, 2003 10:16 pm
> To: vern@t...
> 
> 
>   Vern,
> Here is the concept on how the make a sound dampening platform
> for your drum kit. This platform is made with 1/2 thick plywood and
> tennis balls. Tools needed are a saw, electric drill, drill bit, 
and a 1
> 3/4 hole saw.
> 
> Two additional items will need to be figured out.
> 
>    1. How big to make the make the pieces of plywood so all the gear
> and YOU will fit comfortably on the base.
> 
>     2. In certain areas there will be more weight on the base, as 
where
> a heavy person will sit.  In these areas a few extra tennis balls 
can be
> added to support the extra load. These can always be added later.
> 
>    The pictures show small pieces of plywood.  This is for example
> only. A real platform will be much larger.
> 
>    Pic-1.  Mark the corner of both pieces of plywood with and x.  
This
> is so you can match the orientation of the 2 pieces later.  Mark 
the top
> piece of wood with marks where you want the tennis balls to be. 
Balls
> about 12 to 16  inches apart offer plenty of support.
> 
>    Pic-2.  Clamp or screw the 2 pieces of wood together.
> 
>    Pic-3.  Drill a 1/4"  pilot hole at the marks for the balls.
> 
>    Pic-4   With a 1 3/4" hole saw drill holes at all of the pilot 
holes
> made
>            in Pic-3.  Hints:  Drill through ONLY 1 piece of wood at 
a
> time.
> 
> Raise the hole saw briefly while drilling to clear the
> cutting  teeth of the hole saw. Do the clearing after every
> 10 to 15 seconds of drilling. This makes drilling go faster.
> 
>    Pic-5.  Remove the cut plug from the hole saw after each cut.
> 
>    Pic-6.  Drill all the holes in both pieces of wood.
> 
>    Pic-7.  Place the tennis balls on the bottom piece of wood.
> 
>    Pic-8 & 9. Place the top piece of wood on the tennis balls.
> 
> An additional 3rd piece of plywood can be placed on top to
> give a smooth walking surface. The two top pieces of plywood can 
fastened
> together with some short wood screws and a little Elmers white glue.
> 
> These little pieces of 1/2" plywood and 4 tennis balls I used in
> these pictures easily supports me standing on it and I weight 
200lbs.
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> 
> So spread this around on the drum forum.  It is easy to make and
> works well. :)
> 
> Bob Sheldon, Austin Texas.

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Low Cost Sound Dampening Platform instructions

2003-07-02 by Vernon Graner

Stephanie said:
> Bob:
>
> I'm in Austin, too.  I'd like to talk to you about the
> isolation platform with tennis balls.
>
> Stephanie

Bob isn't on the DTXpress mailing list, he's a friend of mine with a wide
and varied engineering background who lives in Austin (Geortetown
actually). I approached him with the problem and the platform was his
solution.

I'm happy to put you in touch w/him. Send email to bob@... and
tell him "vern" sent'cha!  :)

Vern

PS: I'm also in Austin (~Slaughter/Manchaca), do u play anywhere around
here?

-- 
Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network is down, then you're
Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent so why are we
Texas Information Services  | paying you? Of course, if the network
vern@... www.txis.com  | is up, then we obviously don't need
Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Low Cost Sound Dampening Platform instructions

2003-07-02 by Stephanie

> PS: I'm also in Austin (~Slaughter/Manchaca), do u play anywhere around
>  here?

Hello Vern:

Not yet.  I'm in the process of getting my chops back and trying out new 
things.  I was seriously out of playing drums for 17 years (well, I did play 
on my old drum set and practice pad set very off and on over the years).  I 
started again about 4 months ago.

Thanks for the e-mail for Bob,
Stephanie

Cymbal Bell Pad Found!

2003-07-02 by Stephanie

Hey Guys:

I guess it was on this list where someone asked about a cymbal bell tp play on 
(I think someone made a reference to a 3-zone cymbal designation regarding 
the DTXpress II brain).  I found it!

It's the Single Cup Pad, Yamaha number PCY10, for $57.98 at Interstate Music 
(number EDRPCY10).  This is to be attached above the cymbal for realistic 
cymbal bell playing (I don't know how accurate...).  Go to 
www.interstatemusic.com.

Stephanie

Re: Cymbal Bell Pad Found!

2003-07-03 by oldguydrummer

"I think someone made a reference to a 3-zone cymbal designation 
regarding the DTXpress II brain"

The PCY10 is still available at several websites.  But I not sure 
they will be for long, especially if the PCY150 actually appears 
soon. 

As for as the PCY10 is concerned, I have five of them and they work 
wonderfully. Two pairs are combined with an insert cable and attached 
to zones 9/10 on my modules one and two and the other is attached to 
zone 1 on module 3.  

But the PCY10 cannot be used as a zone on the "3-zone" cymbal input 
(i.e. say a PCY65S being "2 of the zones" and the PCY10 being 
the "3rd zone". It must be plugged into a separate zone input.

I not sure if your are refering to my earlier comment about 
the "phantom" 3-zone cymbal "PCY150" that is referenced in the 
dtxpressii manual and the actual voice settings in the 
module "ride/rideR/rideC". I would think this would function with the 
use of just one stereo cable between the cymbal pad and the module. 
Similar to the 3-zone snare (pad/rim1/rim2). To use the PCY10 with a 
PCY65S and to acheive a form of three zone cymbal (bow/edge/cup), two 
cables and two separate zones would have to be used.

For anybody who is contemplating purchasing a PCY10 and putting it on 
the same mount as the PCY65 cymbal pad, you will need to set the 
specific rejection between the to pads fairly high. Also, you might 
want to turn the wing nut to be parallel to you as opposed to it 
point toward you, because if you accidentally strike the wing nut, it 
will trigger the PCY65 pad mounted below it and not the PCY10. 

OldGuyDrummer

Re: Cymbal Bell Pad Found!

2003-07-03 by moosetication

--- "oldguydrummer" wrote:
> I would think this would function with the 
> use of just one stereo cable between the cymbal
> pad and the module. Similar to the 3-zone snare
> (pad/rim1/rim2).

I'd still love to know how this works, you know. Effectively there 
are three "sensors" (there aren't actually, but you know what I mean) 
on the TP65S pad (pad, rim1, rim2) - and only three contacts on the 
plug (ground, tip, ring). Shouldn't you need four contacts in the 
plug (including ground)? Is there something clever in the body of the 
pad that "encodes" rim1 and rim2 switches differently on the same 
signal (perhaps one goes ground-positive and one goes ground-
negative)?

Enquiring minds wish to know.

Stewart

Drumkit Blank Chart sheets

2003-07-07 by Stephanie

Anyone know where I can get blank Drumkit Chart pages, like the one after page 
84 in the DTXpress II drum trigger module manual?  I've tried in my office 
suite, but it's really, really tiny print on 8.5 by 11 paper!

Thanks!
Stephanie

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Drumkit Blank Chart sheets

2003-07-08 by Stephanie

> Download the PDF version of the manual (link is in the Links section
> here) and just print off the relevant page.

http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/english/menu.html

Go here yourself and tell me what's wrong...  THERE ARE NO MANUALS HERE!  Not 
one for the DTXpress or II models.  Next time, include a directly link.  
Please?

Thanks,
Stephanie

Re: Drumkit Blank Chart sheets

2003-07-08 by moosetication

--- Stephanie wrote:
> Anyone know where I can get blank Drumkit Chart pages,
> like the one after page 84 in the DTXpress II drum
> trigger module manual?  I've tried in my office 
> suite, but it's really, really tiny print on 8.5 by
> 11 paper!

Download the PDF version of the manual (link is in the Links section 
here) and just print off the relevant page.

Stewart

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Drumkit Blank Chart sheets

2003-07-08 by Vernon Graner

Try here:

http://www.dtxpressions.com

then click "downloads" it's the bottom link. :)

Also, for a *real* direct link go here:

http://www.dtxpressions.com/manuals

Vern

PS: The reason the link provided didn't work is that the Yamaha site is
generated on the fly by a backend database and the URL doesn't alter to
reflect the results of a search. If you go to that link, click
"Electronic Instruments" and then type dtxpress in the model name, you
should get the list of manuals. :)

-- 
Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network is down, then you're
Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent so why are we
Texas Information Services  | paying you? Of course, if the network
vern@... www.txis.com  | is up, then we obviously don't need
Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG



Stephanie said:
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>> Download the PDF version of the manual (link is in the Links section
>> here) and just print off the relevant page.
>
> http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/english/menu.html
>
> Go here yourself and tell me what's wrong...  THERE ARE NO MANUALS HERE!
> Not
> one for the DTXpress or II models.  Next time, include a directly link.
> Please?
>
> Thanks,
> Stephanie
>
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