Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

hello everyone,

its gettin 2 a time with me wanting 2 get more out of my edrummin 
practice sessions. In short, what i am trying to achieve is 2 have 
more pads on the kit with different sounds, essentially creating a 
much more extensive electronic kit, without having to splash out on a 
more advanced brain. I am also trying to accomplish this on a 
students budget (u can stop laughing now) from the UK.In my quest 
(far 2 much zelda as a child, i know...) 2 expand this kit i am 
considering doing one of the following options:

1) buy another secondhand dtxpress(1) full ekit & somehow link the 
brains and rack system (i'll find a way), so that i can essentially 
have one large ekit. i'm not quite sure what this would leave me with 
output wise. if it is not possible 2 link the brains then perhaps 
sendin both of the brains outputs through some kind of mixer or amp 
is a possibility.

2) buy another secondhand brain (probably roland) and buy some cheap 
pads (makin sure that they're all compatable of course) and rack 
system. then doin the same thing as above and sendin the output 
through some kind of mixer again. 

3) buy a dtxreme brain, and hook all of my existing pads & a few new 
ones (if i have any money left!) to it in order to have a much larger 
kit (similar to a basic dtxtreme kit).

from what i have heard and understood about the dtxpress it is 
apparently possible to link 2 identical brains together in order to 
expand the kit, although i have never seen it done it seems quite 
feasable. whether this is a possibility for 2 different brains, is a 
question i was hoping one of u might know the answer 2. this option 
seems much more attractive, mainly due 2 the possibility of having 
many more sounds to play with. the first option however, is much more 
affordable, as the old dtxpress' have depretiated quite a bit, and 
secondhand i'm sure i could pick up a whole kit for a good price. 
naturally, if money wasnt such an issue, i would definately go with 
the third option, not just for the greater expandibility, but more so 
for the greater quality in sound (amoungst other dtxtreme 
superiorities). 

but of course all of this malarky is runnin through my head and i am 
not at all sure whether any of it is possible. so if any of u have 
touched upon any of these issues through your experiences with the 
expandibility of the dtxpress, could u please let me know your 
opinions on what the best way forward would be. any ideas or info 
considering the expansion of this kit will be greatly appreciated, 
i'm sure not only by myself but by many others who are considering 
upgrading yet can't be arsed to write such a freakin long post!!

please share your thoughts!!
cheers everyone
l8rz pete


p.s. bear with me here guys, i cant spell 2 save my life.

Pete:

You can certainly add another DTX to your kit to add more inputs. I, 
and several others on this board, do just that. One member (OLDGUY) 
even has three DTX modules!!! 

I run my two modules into a mixer, and send one Main Out to the PA. 
On one module I have my snare, bar pad, and bass. I run the Snare and 
bar pad on the left channel and the bass on the right. On the other 
module, I run the tom on the right channel and the cymbals on the 
left. This way, I have four outputs coming from the modules into the 
mixer, letting me individually adjust the volume, gain, eq, etc. of 
each group. When recording, I send these four lines directly to the 
main mixing board.

The one thing you'll need to be careful of is crosstalk between pads 
that are assigned to the two different modules, as there is no way to 
use the Rejection parameters to prevent this.

Hope this helps,
Stephen

--- "peterpan" wrote:
> In short, what i am trying to achieve is 2 have 
> more pads on the kit with different sounds...

In terms of linking two modules, I think you have three choices:

1. Brain 1 out into brain 2 aux input as a crude "mixer".
2. Brains 1 and 2 into two channels on an audio mixer.

With both of these options, each brain is responsible for its own 
sounds and you'd need to select the correct kit on each brain 
manually to get the "pair" in synch.

3. Brain 1 MIDI into brain 2. Here brain 1 is just acting as a 
trigger to MIDI converter, and brain 2 is responsible for the sound. 
Another way to do this is get a trigger-to-MIDI converter like the 
Roland TMC-6 or PM-16 (the latter is obsolete) or something.

I don't think there's any way to "intelligently" link together two 
DTXpress brains so they work as one. It would be nice because you're 
right, you can pick up used mk1 DTExpress brains quite cheaply.

Stewart

Moose, I have a question about options one and two.  

First, you said you could hook up brain 1 into brain 2 aux input and 
this work as a crude mixer.  What do you mean by crude mixer?  Would 
something sound different or worse by this method?  

Next, in option 3 you state that by connecting the midi of brain 1 
into brain 2 you could have brain 2 acting as a midi trigger 
device.  This is what I am currently doing with my PM-16 but I hate 
how I cannot save my pad voices to something different in every kit 
that are connected to the PM-16.  I'm stuck with that one voice 
combination no matter which kit am in you know what I mean?  SO, 
what I'm wondering is if through method 3 I can save all the pads 
connected to brain 2 in different kits with different sounds.  By 
doing this I would have to change kits on both brains, but I'd have 
all my "extra" pads saved with different sounds in different kits to 
correspond withever kit I'm in in brain one.  Get what I'm 
asking? :)  Hope that wasn't too confusing!  Thanks!!  


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" 
<moosetication@y...> wrote:
> --- "peterpan" wrote:
> > In short, what i am trying to achieve is 2 have 
> > more pads on the kit with different sounds...
> 
> In terms of linking two modules, I think you have three choices:
> 
> 1. Brain 1 out into brain 2 aux input as a crude "mixer".
> 2. Brains 1 and 2 into two channels on an audio mixer.
> 
> With both of these options, each brain is responsible for its own 
> sounds and you'd need to select the correct kit on each brain 
> manually to get the "pair" in synch.
> 
> 3. Brain 1 MIDI into brain 2. Here brain 1 is just acting as a 
> trigger to MIDI converter, and brain 2 is responsible for the 
sound. 
> Another way to do this is get a trigger-to-MIDI converter like the 
> Roland TMC-6 or PM-16 (the latter is obsolete) or something.
> 
> I don't think there's any way to "intelligently" link together two 
> DTXpress brains so they work as one. It would be nice because 
you're 

> right, you can pick up used mk1 DTExpress brains quite cheaply.
> 
> Stewart

I think moose meant 'simple' mixer rather than crude mixer. This is a 
very good way to link two modules.There is no sacrifice in sound 
quality, just mixing options. I sometimes use this method. As for the 
PM-16 you CAN save different patches. I have saved about ten different 
patches on my PM-16. I really only use three. They don't change when 
you change the dtxpress; you have to change the patch on the 
PM-16,too. But it is really quicker than changing the patches on the 
xpress, if they are more than two numbers away from each other(like 
from kit 50 to kit 53). If all your kits in the PM-16 are in the same 
bank, you only need to push one button, and you have a different kit.
Scott

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" <realvast@s...> 
wrote:

> Moose, I have a question about options one and two.  
> 
> First, you said you could hook up brain 1 into brain 2 aux input and 
> this work as a crude mixer.  What do you mean by crude mixer?  Would 
> something sound different or worse by this method?  
> 
> Next, in option 3 you state that by connecting the midi of brain 1 
> into brain 2 you could have brain 2 acting as a midi trigger 
> device.  This is what I am currently doing with my PM-16 but I hate 
> how I cannot save my pad voices to something different in every kit 
> that are connected to the PM-16.  I'm stuck with that one voice 
> combination no matter which kit am in you know what I mean?  SO, 
> what I'm wondering is if through method 3 I can save all the pads 
> connected to brain 2 in different kits with different sounds.  By 
> doing this I would have to change kits on both brains, but I'd have 
> all my "extra" pads saved with different sounds in different kits to 
> correspond withever kit I'm in in brain one.  Get what I'm 
> asking? :)  Hope that wasn't too confusing!  Thanks!!  
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" 
> <moosetication@y...> wrote:
> > --- "peterpan" wrote:
> > > In short, what i am trying to achieve is 2 have 
> > > more pads on the kit with different sounds...
> > 
> > In terms of linking two modules, I think you have three choices:
> > 
> > 1. Brain 1 out into brain 2 aux input as a crude "mixer".
> > 2. Brains 1 and 2 into two channels on an audio mixer.
> > 
> > With both of these options, each brain is responsible for its own 
> > sounds and you'd need to select the correct kit on each brain 
> > manually to get the "pair" in synch.
> > 
> > 3. Brain 1 MIDI into brain 2. Here brain 1 is just acting as a 
> > trigger to MIDI converter, and brain 2 is responsible for the 
> sound. 
> > Another way to do this is get a trigger-to-MIDI converter like the 
> > Roland TMC-6 or PM-16 (the latter is obsolete) or something.
> > 
> > I don't think there's any way to "intelligently" link together two 
> > DTXpress brains so they work as one. It would be nice because 
> you're 
> > right, you can pick up used mk1 DTExpress brains quite cheaply.
> > 
> > Stewart

Scott, thanks for the info!  Can you explain how to save different 
patches?  Thank you!

-UN.H


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "hairytrigger" <artifax@i...> wrote:
> I think moose meant 'simple' mixer rather than crude mixer. This 
is a 
> very good way to link two modules.There is no sacrifice in sound 
> quality, just mixing options. I sometimes use this method. As for 
the 
> PM-16 you CAN save different patches. I have saved about ten 
different 
> patches on my PM-16. I really only use three. They don't change 
when 
> you change the dtxpress; you have to change the patch on the 
> PM-16,too. But it is really quicker than changing the patches on 
the 
> xpress, if they are more than two numbers away from each other
(like 
> from kit 50 to kit 53). If all your kits in the PM-16 are in the 
same 
> bank, you only need to push one button, and you have a different 
kit.
> Scott
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" 
<realvast@s...> 
> wrote:
> > Moose, I have a question about options one and two.  
> > 
> > First, you said you could hook up brain 1 into brain 2 aux input 
and 
> > this work as a crude mixer.  What do you mean by crude mixer?  
Would 
> > something sound different or worse by this method?  
> > 
> > Next, in option 3 you state that by connecting the midi of brain 
1 
> > into brain 2 you could have brain 2 acting as a midi trigger 
> > device.  This is what I am currently doing with my PM-16 but I 
hate 
> > how I cannot save my pad voices to something different in every 
kit 
> > that are connected to the PM-16.  I'm stuck with that one voice 
> > combination no matter which kit am in you know what I mean?  SO, 
> > what I'm wondering is if through method 3 I can save all the 
pads 
> > connected to brain 2 in different kits with different sounds.  
By 
> > doing this I would have to change kits on both brains, but I'd 
have 
> > all my "extra" pads saved with different sounds in different 
kits to 
> > correspond withever kit I'm in in brain one.  Get what I'm 
> > asking? :)  Hope that wasn't too confusing!  Thanks!!  
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" 
> > <moosetication@y...> wrote:
> > > --- "peterpan" wrote:
> > > > In short, what i am trying to achieve is 2 have 
> > > > more pads on the kit with different sounds...
> > > 
> > > In terms of linking two modules, I think you have three 
choices:
> > > 
> > > 1. Brain 1 out into brain 2 aux input as a crude "mixer".
> > > 2. Brains 1 and 2 into two channels on an audio mixer.
> > > 
> > > With both of these options, each brain is responsible for its 
own 
> > > sounds and you'd need to select the correct kit on each brain 
> > > manually to get the "pair" in synch.
> > > 
> > > 3. Brain 1 MIDI into brain 2. Here brain 1 is just acting as a 
> > > trigger to MIDI converter, and brain 2 is responsible for the 
> > sound. 
> > > Another way to do this is get a trigger-to-MIDI converter like 
the 
> > > Roland TMC-6 or PM-16 (the latter is obsolete) or something.
> > > 
> > > I don't think there's any way to "intelligently" link together 
two 

> > > DTXpress brains so they work as one. It would be nice because 
> > you're 
> > > right, you can pick up used mk1 DTExpress brains quite cheaply.
> > > 
> > > Stewart

--- "underneathheaven" wrote:
> What do you mean by crude mixer?  Would 

It would be no different to hooking up your CD player to the brain 
when playing along with music. I doubt the quality would be 
fantastic, but it would probably do.

> SO, what I'm wondering is if through method 3 I can
> save all the pads connected to brain 2 in different
> kits with different sounds.

Alas, I am currently in "dangerous" mode... brand new owner, little 
knowledge, lots of speculation. A bit like a med student on his first 
rotation. So, frankly, I dunno.

Stewart

UN. H.
Briefly, until I have more time (i'm off to work, then cub scout 
meeting tonight)  However you saved the kit in the patch you are using 
now. Its the same process. More later...
Scott
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" <realvast@s...> 
wrote:
> Scott, thanks for the info!  Can you explain how to save different 
> patches?  Thank you!
> 
> -UN.H
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "hairytrigger" <artifax@i...> 
wrote:
> > I think moose meant 'simple' mixer rather than crude mixer. This 
> is a 
> > very good way to link two modules.There is no sacrifice in sound 
> > quality, just mixing options. I sometimes use this method. As for 
> the 
> > PM-16 you CAN save different patches. I have saved about ten 
> different 
> > patches on my PM-16. I really only use three. They don't change 
> when 
> > you change the dtxpress; you have to change the patch on the 
> > PM-16,too. But it is really quicker than changing the patches on 
> the 
> > xpress, if they are more than two numbers away from each other
> (like 
> > from kit 50 to kit 53). If all your kits in the PM-16 are in the 
> same 
> > bank, you only need to push one button, and you have a different 
> kit.
> > Scott
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" 
> <realvast@s...> 
> > wrote:
> > > Moose, I have a question about options one and two.  
> > > 
> > > First, you said you could hook up brain 1 into brain 2 aux input 
> and 
> > > this work as a crude mixer.  What do you mean by crude mixer?  
> Would 
> > > something sound different or worse by this method?  
> > > 
> > > Next, in option 3 you state that by connecting the midi of brain 
> 1 
> > > into brain 2 you could have brain 2 acting as a midi trigger 
> > > device.  This is what I am currently doing with my PM-16 but I 
> hate 
> > > how I cannot save my pad voices to something different in every 
> kit 
> > > that are connected to the PM-16.  I'm stuck with that one voice 
> > > combination no matter which kit am in you know what I mean?  SO, 
> > > what I'm wondering is if through method 3 I can save all the 
> pads 
> > > connected to brain 2 in different kits with different sounds.  
> By 
> > > doing this I would have to change kits on both brains, but I'd 
> have 
> > > all my "extra" pads saved with different sounds in different 
> kits to 
> > > correspond withever kit I'm in in brain one.  Get what I'm 
> > > asking? :)  Hope that wasn't too confusing!  Thanks!!  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" 
> > > <moosetication@y...> wrote:
> > > > --- "peterpan" wrote:
> > > > > In short, what i am trying to achieve is 2 have 
> > > > > more pads on the kit with different sounds...
> > > > 
> > > > In terms of linking two modules, I think you have three 
> choices:
> > > > 
> > > > 1. Brain 1 out into brain 2 aux input as a crude "mixer".
> > > > 2. Brains 1 and 2 into two channels on an audio mixer.
> > > > 
> > > > With both of these options, each brain is responsible for its 
> own 
> > > > sounds and you'd need to select the correct kit on each brain 
> > > > manually to get the "pair" in synch.
> > > > 
> > > > 3. Brain 1 MIDI into brain 2. Here brain 1 is just acting as a 
> > > > trigger to MIDI converter, and brain 2 is responsible for the 
> > > sound. 
> > > > Another way to do this is get a trigger-to-MIDI converter like 
> the 
> > > > Roland TMC-6 or PM-16 (the latter is obsolete) or something.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't think there's any way to "intelligently" link together 
> two 
> > > > DTXpress brains so they work as one. It would be nice because 
> > > you're 
> > > > right, you can pick up used mk1 DTExpress brains quite 
cheaply.
> > > > 
> > > > Stewart

Hi, Pete:

I run the three DTXPRESSII modules through a Mackie DFX12 mixer. My kit has
been divided into three horizontal rack sections, left section all pads go
through module 1, middle section pads go through module 2 and right section
all pads go through module 3. All the inputs are being used on all three
modules but by isolating the pads to a module in one area, crosstalk has all
but been eliminated. I have replaced all the original DTXPRESSII cymbal
clamps with Gilbralter multiclamps, which allows the insertion of a rubber
isolator between the cymbal arm and the clamp. I took a heavy rubber hose
made for a washing machine discharge hose and cut pieces to the exact size
and diameter to fit around the cymbal arm before inserting it into the
clamp. Because of the large number of pad clamps on each section of the
rack, I was getting a frequent crosstalk between TP-65's and cymbal pads.
Consider the case where I have two TP65 in close proximity and a cymbal
mount between them. Since the module will only allow one specific rejection
per pad, I could only eliminate one source of crosstalk and not two (TP65 TO
TP65, TP65 to PCY65S). This rubber isolation insert has eliminated my
problem.

Stephen, that's a good idea about separating left/right channel, because
with the three modules I would have 6 outputs. By the way I have completed
my conduit cable management system and it works like a charm.

OldGuyDrummer

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	brown8700 [SMTP:brown8700@...]
> Sent:	Sunday, April 27, 2003 8:16 PM
> To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	[DTXpress] Re: linkin brains...
> 
> Pete:
> 
> You can certainly add another DTX to your kit to add more inputs. I, 
> and several others on this board, do just that. One member (OLDGUY) 
> even has three DTX modules!!! 
> 
> I run my two modules into a mixer, and send one Main Out to the PA. 
> On one module I have my snare, bar pad, and bass. I run the Snare and 
> bar pad on the left channel and the bass on the right. On the other 
> module, I run the tom on the right channel and the cymbals on the 
> left. This way, I have four outputs coming from the modules into the 
> mixer, letting me individually adjust the volume, gain, eq, etc. of 
> each group. When recording, I send these four lines directly to the 
> main mixing board.
> 
> The one thing you'll need to be careful of is crosstalk between pads 
> that are assigned to the two different modules, as there is no way to 
> use the Rejection parameters to prevent this.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Stephen
> 
> 
> 
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cheers for all the info guys, much appreciated...

right, i'm gonna go for another dtxpress, it looks like the best 
option for me. i've been lookin around and can find them second hand 
for around £450, although I haven't seen them any cheaper i feel that 
this might be alittle pricey for a 2nd hand dtxpress 1. although i'm 
not entirely sure how much they are worth nowadays. do u guys think 
this is a fair price?

if i cant get any cheaper i'm also considerin savin up a bit more for 
a brand new dtxpress II. although i don't know much about the brain 
at all. those of u who have this brain, how good is it in comparison 
to the older dtxpress brain, are there many more sounds and are they 
better quality, or is it essentially the same module repackaged and 
sold with better pads?

finally, from what i understand form your replies to my original 
post, crosstalk seems to be quite a serious issue when using more 
than one module in any setup. could somebody please explain to me 
what crosstalk actually is, as i am not entirely sure at present. how 
serious is it, and how have (the people who have had this problem) 
reduced or eliminated it from your setup?

thanks again for everyones feedback.. you've been real helpful!!!
l8r pete 









--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> Hi, Pete:
> 
> I run the three DTXPRESSII modules through a Mackie DFX12 mixer. My 
kit has
> been divided into three horizontal rack sections, left section all 
pads go
> through module 1, middle section pads go through module 2 and right 
section
> all pads go through module 3. All the inputs are being used on all 
three
> modules but by isolating the pads to a module in one area, 
crosstalk has all
> but been eliminated. I have replaced all the original DTXPRESSII 
cymbal
> clamps with Gilbralter multiclamps, which allows the insertion of a 
rubber
> isolator between the cymbal arm and the clamp. I took a heavy 
rubber hose
> made for a washing machine discharge hose and cut pieces to the 
exact size
> and diameter to fit around the cymbal arm before inserting it into 
the
> clamp. Because of the large number of pad clamps on each section of 
the
> rack, I was getting a frequent crosstalk between TP-65's and cymbal 
pads.
> Consider the case where I have two TP65 in close proximity and a 
cymbal
> mount between them. Since the module will only allow one specific 
rejection
> per pad, I could only eliminate one source of crosstalk and not two 
(TP65 TO
> TP65, TP65 to PCY65S). This rubber isolation insert has eliminated 
my
> problem.
> 
> Stephen, that's a good idea about separating left/right channel, 
because
> with the three modules I would have 6 outputs. By the way I have 
completed
> my conduit cable management system and it works like a charm.
> 
> OldGuyDrummer
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	brown8700 [SMTP:brown8700@a...]
> > Sent:	Sunday, April 27, 2003 8:16 PM
> > To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:	[DTXpress] Re: linkin brains...
> > 
> > Pete:
> > 
> > You can certainly add another DTX to your kit to add more inputs. 
I, 
> > and several others on this board, do just that. One member 
(OLDGUY) 
> > even has three DTX modules!!! 
> > 
> > I run my two modules into a mixer, and send one Main Out to the 
PA. 
> > On one module I have my snare, bar pad, and bass. I run the Snare 
and 
> > bar pad on the left channel and the bass on the right. On the 
other 
> > module, I run the tom on the right channel and the cymbals on the 
> > left. This way, I have four outputs coming from the modules into 
the 
> > mixer, letting me individually adjust the volume, gain, eq, etc. 
of 
> > each group. When recording, I send these four lines directly to 
the 
> > main mixing board.
> > 
> > The one thing you'll need to be careful of is crosstalk between 
pads 
> > that are assigned to the two different modules, as there is no 
way to 
> > use the Rejection parameters to prevent this.
> > 
> > Hope this helps,
> > Stephen
> > 
> > 
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Pete:
I would think that you could find another DTX I module for less than 
$450 (US). I recently picked one up for about $230, but I made an 
exceptionally good deal.

As far as the crosstalk goes you just need to make certain that the 
pads connected to module one are isolated from the pads connected to 
module two. When using only module you can dampen crosstalk with the 
Rejection parameters, but that option disappears when a pad connected 
to one module is causing enough vibrations to trigger a pad connected 
to the other module. Reducing the gain and and increasing minimum 
velocity for the affected pad can reduce the amount of crosstalk, but 
it will also limit the dynalmic of that pad.

There are several ways to isolate the crosstalk. One is to have the 
pads from different modules mounted to separate rack arms. One is to 
have everything on the left side of your kit go to one module and 
everything on the right side go to the other. Another is to isolate 
cymbal stands and such with rubber inserts to lessen vibrations.

I lessened the vibrations in my kit by filling the rack tubes with 
that expanding foam and filling the cymbal uprights with cotton. That 
seems to have cured any crosstalk issues for me, while still having 
the gain and velocity level where I like them.

Hope this helps, and keep looking for module at a better price. 
They're out there!

Stephen

Stephen
Your suggestion about putting expanding foam into the rack tubes is an 
excellent one. When I was making my own racks out of electrical 
conduit, I used this method. It really did work. I had forgotten about 
it. Anyone who is using two modules or an interface to add inputs 
should consider this option.A word of caution: It can be messy!
Use care to avoid getting foam on the outside of the tube (and keep it 
off your hands and clothes.)
I will definately try it!
Scott

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "brown8700" <brown8700@a...> wrote:
> Pete:
> I would think that you could find another DTX I module for less than 
> $450 (US). I recently picked one up for about $230, but I made an 
> exceptionally good deal.
> 
> As far as the crosstalk goes you just need to make certain that the 
> pads connected to module one are isolated from the pads connected to 
> module two. When using only module you can dampen crosstalk with the 
> Rejection parameters, but that option disappears when a pad 
connected 
> to one module is causing enough vibrations to trigger a pad 
connected 
> to the other module. Reducing the gain and and increasing minimum 
> velocity for the affected pad can reduce the amount of crosstalk, 
but 
> it will also limit the dynalmic of that pad.
> 
> There are several ways to isolate the crosstalk. One is to have the 
> pads from different modules mounted to separate rack arms. One is to 
> have everything on the left side of your kit go to one module and 
> everything on the right side go to the other. Another is to isolate 
> cymbal stands and such with rubber inserts to lessen vibrations.
> 
> I lessened the vibrations in my kit by filling the rack tubes with 
> that expanding foam and filling the cymbal uprights with cotton. 
That 

> seems to have cured any crosstalk issues for me, while still having 
> the gain and velocity level where I like them.
> 
> Hope this helps, and keep looking for module at a better price. 
> They're out there!
> 
> Stephen