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Does anyone know what the little silver "mini-cymbal" things on the 
tambourine are called?  I'm talking about the actual sound producing 
things...I've been wondering what they're called...sorry for a lack 
of a knowledge about the thingies.

-UN.H

Jingles, I think, no?

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" <realvast@s...> 
wrote:
> Does anyone know what the little silver "mini-cymbal" things on 
the 
> tambourine are called?  I'm talking about the actual sound 
producing 
> things...I've been wondering what they're called...sorry for a 
lack 

> of a knowledge about the thingies.
> 
> -UN.H

From the "infoplease" website
(URL:http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/ent/A0847744.html) comes this
defintion which includes the components:

---------------------- CLIP --------------------
tambourine [tam"burEn'], musical instrument of the percussion family,
having a narrow circular frame and a single parchment drumhead, with
metal plates or jingles set in the frame. The ancient Romans used it, and
in the Middle Ages and the Renaissance it was used by traveling musicians
and entertainers. In the 19th cent. it became a military-band instrument,
appearing later and very occasionally in the orchestra. The timbrel or
tabret of the Bible was probably similar to the tambourine.
Source: http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/ent/A0847744.html
--------------------- /CLIP --------------------

And of course, from the the ever popular History for the Tambourine
located on the Timbrel Praise website
(URL:http://www.timbrelpraise.com/history.htm):

---------------------- CLIP --------------------
The History of the Tambourine

The tambourine can be traced back to most ancient civilizations such as
India, Greece, China, Egypt, and Rome. It is also the instrument on which
Miriam played after the Israelites escaped from Egypt in Exodus 15:20. It
was often associated with joy, dancing, rejoicing, victory, and times of
happiness and gladness.

The tambourine began to take a prominent place in the music world during
the eighteenth century when composers used it in their operas, however,
it wasn't until the nineteenth century that the tambourine became more
popular, appearing in Igor Stravinsky's balled 'Petrushka', as well as in
works by composers such as Berlioz.

Although the tambourine is accepted as a percussion instrument in the
orchestra, it wasn't until the Salvation Army began to use it at the end
of the nineteenth century did it begin to one again take its rightful
place as an instrument of praise, worship, and warfare in the church. The
Salvation Army were also the first to form timbrel brigades, often of
young people, devoted to learning and playing the timbrel, especially
during outreaches.

The technique of playing the tambourine called 'Timbrel Praise' was
developed in Hong Kong during the 1980s by Dodie V. Sarchet-Waller and
has since then emerged into what it is today.

The tambourine is now accepted as an acoustic, untuned instrument
belonging to the percussion section of the orchestra. It has an
indefinite pitch and
is used to maintain rhythm and contribute generally.
--------------------- /CLIP --------------------

Remember, GOOGLE is your friend. :D

Vern

Creighton Higgins said:
> In "Mr. Tambourine Man" aren't they "jingle jangles". OK, I'm giving you
> the
> Byrd. :-|
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: liberatusvirus [mailto:liberatusvirus@...]
>   Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 6:22 PM
>   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Tambourine Trivia
>
>
>   Jingles, I think, no?
>
>   --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" <realvast@s...>
>   wrote:
>   > Does anyone know what the little silver "mini-cymbal" things on
>   the
>   > tambourine are called?  I'm talking about the actual sound
>   producing
>   > things...I've been wondering what they're called...sorry for a
>   lack
>   > of a knowledge about the thingies.
>   >
>   > -UN.H

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I'm not from that era, but wasn't Mr. Tambourine Man about something 
else other than Mr. Tambourine Man? :)  Lets see who knows!  Man, a 
whole lot of trivia is coming out of this thread!

-UN.H  


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Creighton Higgins" 
<creighton@l...> wrote:
> In "Mr. Tambourine Man" aren't they "jingle jangles". OK, I'm 
giving you the
> Byrd. :-|
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: liberatusvirus [mailto:liberatusvirus@y...]
>   Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 6:22 PM
>   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Tambourine Trivia
> 
> 
>   Jingles, I think, no?
> 
>   --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" 
<realvast@s...>
>   wrote:
>   > Does anyone know what the little silver "mini-cymbal" things on
>   the
>   > tambourine are called?  I'm talking about the actual sound
>   producing
>   > things...I've been wondering what they're called...sorry for a
>   lack
>   > of a knowledge about the thingies.
>   >
>   > -UN.H
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UNH,

Mr. Tambourine Man is about a girl who hits her head on a tambourine 
during a hurricane and meets a wizard in her dreams, the Mr. 
Tambourine Man of the title, and has all manner of wondrous 
adventures on his "magic swirling ship" before she wakes up in the 
morning surrounded by dancing gypsies shaking the tambourine in her 
face. Much to her family's dismay, she runs away with them the next 
morning ("in the jingle jangle morning I'll come following you"), 
because of a need for "her boot heels to be wanderin'." After all, 
evening's empire has returned into sand.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" <realvast@s...> 
wrote:
> I'm not from that era, but wasn't Mr. Tambourine Man about 
something 
> else other than Mr. Tambourine Man? :)  Lets see who knows!  Man, 
a 
> whole lot of trivia is coming out of this thread!
> 
> -UN.H  
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Creighton Higgins" 
> <creighton@l...> wrote:
> > In "Mr. Tambourine Man" aren't they "jingle jangles". OK, I'm 
> giving you the
> > Byrd. :-|
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: liberatusvirus [mailto:liberatusvirus@y...]
> >   Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 6:22 PM
> >   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> >   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Tambourine Trivia
> > 
> > 
> >   Jingles, I think, no?
> > 
> >   --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" 
> <realvast@s...>
> >   wrote:
> >   > Does anyone know what the little silver "mini-cymbal" things 
on
> >   the
> >   > tambourine are called?  I'm talking about the actual sound
> >   producing
> >   > things...I've been wondering what they're called...sorry for 
a

> >   lack
> >   > of a knowledge about the thingies.
> >   >
> >   > -UN.H
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Incidentally, her gypsy saga continues in the song "Spanish Harlem 
Incident," in which she becomes something of a tambouring (wo)man 
herself, accosting passersby on the street. Authorities accused her 
of starting a cult.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> UNH,
> 
> Mr. Tambourine Man is about a girl who hits her head on a 
tambourine 
> during a hurricane and meets a wizard in her dreams, the Mr. 
> Tambourine Man of the title, and has all manner of wondrous 
> adventures on his "magic swirling ship" before she wakes up in the 
> morning surrounded by dancing gypsies shaking the tambourine in 
her 
> face. Much to her family's dismay, she runs away with them the 
next 
> morning ("in the jingle jangle morning I'll come following you"), 
> because of a need for "her boot heels to be wanderin'." After all, 
> evening's empire has returned into sand.
> 
> Ed
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" 
<realvast@s...> 
> wrote:
> > I'm not from that era, but wasn't Mr. Tambourine Man about 
> something 
> > else other than Mr. Tambourine Man? :)  Lets see who knows!  
Man, 
> a 
> > whole lot of trivia is coming out of this thread!
> > 
> > -UN.H  
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Creighton Higgins" 
> > <creighton@l...> wrote:
> > > In "Mr. Tambourine Man" aren't they "jingle jangles". OK, I'm 
> > giving you the
> > > Byrd. :-|
> > >   -----Original Message-----
> > >   From: liberatusvirus [mailto:liberatusvirus@y...]
> > >   Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 6:22 PM
> > >   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > >   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Tambourine Trivia
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Jingles, I think, no?
> > > 
> > >   --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" 
> > <realvast@s...>
> > >   wrote:
> > >   > Does anyone know what the little silver "mini-cymbal" 
things 
> on
> > >   the
> > >   > tambourine are called?  I'm talking about the actual sound
> > >   producing
> > >   > things...I've been wondering what they're called...sorry 
for 
> a
> > >   lack
> > >   > of a knowledge about the thingies.
> > >   >
> > >   > -UN.H
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Creighton,

To me, the Byrds' release of that song marked the moment when pop 
music became elevated to art. I'd always been a precocious pop music 
fan, buying records in my pre-teens during the 50s, and embracing 
the Beatles/British Invasion in the early 60s. But Mr Tambourine Man 
brought the experience to a whole new level--not that I understood 
Dylan's oracular/biblical take on language. It just sounded so 
romantic and ethereal for the first time.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Creighton Higgins" 
<creighton@l...> wrote:
> Being a sixties guy- I never got past the "magic swirling ship" 
part. The
> lyric would cause me to spend hours staring at my thumb.
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: liberatusvirus [mailto:liberatusvirus@y...]
>   Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 8:27 AM
>   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Tambourine Trivia
> 
> 
>   Incidentally, her gypsy saga continues in the song "Spanish 
Harlem
>   Incident," in which she becomes something of a tambouring (wo)man
>   herself, accosting passersby on the street. Authorities accused 
her
>   of starting a cult.
> 
>   --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus"
>   <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
>   > UNH,
>   >
>   > Mr. Tambourine Man is about a girl who hits her head on a
>   tambourine
>   > during a hurricane and meets a wizard in her dreams, the Mr.
>   > Tambourine Man of the title, and has all manner of wondrous
>   > adventures on his "magic swirling ship" before she wakes up in 
the
>   > morning surrounded by dancing gypsies shaking the tambourine in
>   her
>   > face. Much to her family's dismay, she runs away with them the
>   next
>   > morning ("in the jingle jangle morning I'll come following 
you"),
>   > because of a need for "her boot heels to be wanderin'." After 
all,
>   > evening's empire has returned into sand.
>   >
>   > Ed
>   >
>   > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven"
>   <realvast@s...>
>   > wrote:
>   > > I'm not from that era, but wasn't Mr. Tambourine Man about
>   > something
>   > > else other than Mr. Tambourine Man? :)  Lets see who knows!
>   Man,
>   > a
>   > > whole lot of trivia is coming out of this thread!
>   > >
>   > > -UN.H
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Creighton Higgins"
>   > > <creighton@l...> wrote:
>   > > > In "Mr. Tambourine Man" aren't they "jingle jangles". OK, 
I'm
>   > > giving you the
>   > > > Byrd. :-|
>   > > >   -----Original Message-----
>   > > >   From: liberatusvirus [mailto:liberatusvirus@y...]
>   > > >   Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 6:22 PM
>   > > >   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>   > > >   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Tambourine Trivia
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >   Jingles, I think, no?
>   > > >
>   > > >   --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven"
>   > > <realvast@s...>
>   > > >   wrote:
>   > > >   > Does anyone know what the little silver "mini-cymbal"
>   things
>   > on
>   > > >   the
>   > > >   > tambourine are called?  I'm talking about the actual 
sound
>   > > >   producing
>   > > >   > things...I've been wondering what they're 
called...sorry
>   for
>   > a
>   > > >   lack
>   > > >   > of a knowledge about the thingies.
>   > > >   >
>   > > >   > -UN.H
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There was definitely something special about the original five, then 
even four, Byrds. The first five or six albums still speak to me. 
Notorious Byrd Brothers, which by the end saw them down to two 
members, is another watershed of sorts. They had a reputation for 
being ragged live, at best, by the time of their demise, and the set 
at Monterey doesn't change the record, but when I saw them in a big 
concert at Yankee Stadium in 1966, just at the release of Fifth 
Dimension (Eight Miles High), I was blown away by how strong they 
were. Their mutual hatred had not yet escalated to the point at 
which they couldn't occupy the same space together. By the way, 
Johnny Rogan's Byrds: Timeless Flight Revisited is truly an 
eyeopener. We were all just kids, weren't we?

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Creighton Higgins" 
<creighton@l...> wrote:
> I agree- it's amazing how good a songwriter Dylan is given that 
his lyrics
> are often puzzling at best.  I grieved when the Byrds changed and 
dissolved.
> The Byrds seemed to be the 1st group that used harmonized vocals 
that
> transcended mere pop. So much better than the Association.
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: liberatusvirus [mailto:liberatusvirus@y...]
>   Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 9:01 AM
>   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Tambourine Trivia
> 
> 
>   Creighton,
> 
>   To me, the Byrds' release of that song marked the moment when pop
>   music became elevated to art. I'd always been a precocious pop 
music
>   fan, buying records in my pre-teens during the 50s, and embracing
>   the Beatles/British Invasion in the early 60s. But Mr Tambourine 
Man
>   brought the experience to a whole new level--not that I 
understood
>   Dylan's oracular/biblical take on language. It just sounded so
>   romantic and ethereal for the first time.
> 
>   Ed
> 
>   --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Creighton Higgins"
>   <creighton@l...> wrote:
>   > Being a sixties guy- I never got past the "magic swirling ship"
>   part. The
>   > lyric would cause me to spend hours staring at my thumb.
>   >   -----Original Message-----
>   >   From: liberatusvirus [mailto:liberatusvirus@y...]
>   >   Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 8:27 AM
>   >   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>   >   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Tambourine Trivia
>   >
>   >
>   >   Incidentally, her gypsy saga continues in the song "Spanish
>   Harlem
>   >   Incident," in which she becomes something of a tambouring 
(wo)man
>   >   herself, accosting passersby on the street. Authorities 
accused
>   her
>   >   of starting a cult.
>   >
>   >   --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus"
>   >   <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
>   >   > UNH,
>   >   >
>   >   > Mr. Tambourine Man is about a girl who hits her head on a
>   >   tambourine
>   >   > during a hurricane and meets a wizard in her dreams, the 
Mr.
>   >   > Tambourine Man of the title, and has all manner of wondrous
>   >   > adventures on his "magic swirling ship" before she wakes 
up in
>   the
>   >   > morning surrounded by dancing gypsies shaking the 
tambourine in
>   >   her
>   >   > face. Much to her family's dismay, she runs away with them 
the
>   >   next
>   >   > morning ("in the jingle jangle morning I'll come following
>   you"),
>   >   > because of a need for "her boot heels to be wanderin'." 
After
>   all,
>   >   > evening's empire has returned into sand.
>   >   >
>   >   > Ed
>   >   >
>   >   > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven"
>   >   <realvast@s...>
>   >   > wrote:
>   >   > > I'm not from that era, but wasn't Mr. Tambourine Man 
about
>   >   > something
>   >   > > else other than Mr. Tambourine Man? :)  Lets see who 
knows!
>   >   Man,
>   >   > a
>   >   > > whole lot of trivia is coming out of this thread!
>   >   > >
>   >   > > -UN.H
>   >   > >
>   >   > >
>   >   > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Creighton Higgins"
>   >   > > <creighton@l...> wrote:
>   >   > > > In "Mr. Tambourine Man" aren't they "jingle jangles". 
OK,
>   I'm
>   >   > > giving you the
>   >   > > > Byrd. :-|
>   >   > > >   -----Original Message-----
>   >   > > >   From: liberatusvirus [mailto:liberatusvirus@y...]
>   >   > > >   Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 6:22 PM
>   >   > > >   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>   >   > > >   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Tambourine Trivia
>   >   > > >
>   >   > > >
>   >   > > >   Jingles, I think, no?
>   >   > > >
>   >   > > >   --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven"
>   >   > > <realvast@s...>
>   >   > > >   wrote:
>   >   > > >   > Does anyone know what the little silver "mini-
cymbal"
>   >   things
>   >   > on
>   >   > > >   the
>   >   > > >   > tambourine are called?  I'm talking about the 
actual
>   sound
>   >   > > >   producing
>   >   > > >   > things...I've been wondering what they're
>   called...sorry
>   >   for
>   >   > a
>   >   > > >   lack
>   >   > > >   > of a knowledge about the thingies.
>   >   > > >   >
>   >   > > >   > -UN.H
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It's been said that Woodstock marked the end of the moment, 
collecting the "counterculture" into one convenient group ripe for 
commercial exploitation. I can't disagree. But despite the naivite, 
the false confidence, and the clay feet, the loose movement arguably 
put the world on another course entirely. Not even the 
archconservative backlash that was to follow could completely dispel 
its influence.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Creighton Higgins" 
<creighton@l...> wrote:
> Last week I checked Woodstock (the movie) out of the library to 
share with
> my 14 year old daughter who is doing a project on 60's music. The 
music was
> so much more than entertainment, IT WAS IMPORTANT. I am so amused 
at the
> arrogant naiveté so many of us spouted. The music holds up though. 
We
> weren't kids- we were changing the world! hah
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: liberatusvirus [mailto:liberatusvirus@y...]
>   Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 9:19 AM
>   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Tambourine Trivia
> 
> 
>   There was definitely something special about the original five, 
then
>   even four, Byrds. The first five or six albums still speak to me.
>   Notorious Byrd Brothers, which by the end saw them down to two
>   members, is another watershed of sorts. They had a reputation for
>   being ragged live, at best, by the time of their demise, and the 
set
>   at Monterey doesn't change the record, but when I saw them in a 
big
>   concert at Yankee Stadium in 1966, just at the release of Fifth
>   Dimension (Eight Miles High), I was blown away by how strong they
>   were. Their mutual hatred had not yet escalated to the point at
>   which they couldn't occupy the same space together. By the way,
>   Johnny Rogan's Byrds: Timeless Flight Revisited is truly an
>   eyeopener. We were all just kids, weren't we?
> 
>   --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Creighton Higgins"
>   <creighton@l...> wrote:
>   > I agree- it's amazing how good a songwriter Dylan is given that
>   his lyrics
>   > are often puzzling at best.  I grieved when the Byrds changed 
and
>   dissolved.
>   > The Byrds seemed to be the 1st group that used harmonized 
vocals
>   that
>   > transcended mere pop. So much better than the Association.
>   >   -----Original Message-----
>   >   From: liberatusvirus [mailto:liberatusvirus@y...]
>   >   Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 9:01 AM
>   >   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>   >   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Tambourine Trivia
>   >
>   >
>   >   Creighton,
>   >
>   >   To me, the Byrds' release of that song marked the moment 
when pop
>   >   music became elevated to art. I'd always been a precocious 
pop
>   music
>   >   fan, buying records in my pre-teens during the 50s, and 
embracing
>   >   the Beatles/British Invasion in the early 60s. But Mr 
Tambourine
>   Man
>   >   brought the experience to a whole new level--not that I
>   understood
>   >   Dylan's oracular/biblical take on language. It just sounded 
so
>   >   romantic and ethereal for the first time.
>   >
>   >   Ed
>   >
>   >   --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Creighton Higgins"
>   >   <creighton@l...> wrote:
>   >   > Being a sixties guy- I never got past the "magic swirling 
ship"
>   >   part. The
>   >   > lyric would cause me to spend hours staring at my thumb.
>   >   >   -----Original Message-----
>   >   >   From: liberatusvirus [mailto:liberatusvirus@y...]
>   >   >   Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 8:27 AM
>   >   >   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>   >   >   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Tambourine Trivia
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >   Incidentally, her gypsy saga continues in the 
song "Spanish
>   >   Harlem
>   >   >   Incident," in which she becomes something of a tambouring
>   (wo)man
>   >   >   herself, accosting passersby on the street. Authorities
>   accused
>   >   her
>   >   >   of starting a cult.
>   >   >
>   >   >   --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus"
>   >   >   <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
>   >   >   > UNH,
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   > Mr. Tambourine Man is about a girl who hits her head 
on a
>   >   >   tambourine
>   >   >   > during a hurricane and meets a wizard in her dreams, 
the
>   Mr.
>   >   >   > Tambourine Man of the title, and has all manner of 
wondrous
>   >   >   > adventures on his "magic swirling ship" before she 
wakes
>   up in
>   >   the
>   >   >   > morning surrounded by dancing gypsies shaking the
>   tambourine in
>   >   >   her
>   >   >   > face. Much to her family's dismay, she runs away with 
them
>   the
>   >   >   next
>   >   >   > morning ("in the jingle jangle morning I'll come 
following
>   >   you"),
>   >   >   > because of a need for "her boot heels to be wanderin'."
>   After
>   >   all,
>   >   >   > evening's empire has returned into sand.
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   > Ed
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven"
>   >   >   <realvast@s...>
>   >   >   > wrote:
>   >   >   > > I'm not from that era, but wasn't Mr. Tambourine Man
>   about
>   >   >   > something
>   >   >   > > else other than Mr. Tambourine Man? :)  Lets see who
>   knows!
>   >   >   Man,
>   >   >   > a
>   >   >   > > whole lot of trivia is coming out of this thread!
>   >   >   > >
>   >   >   > > -UN.H
>   >   >   > >
>   >   >   > >
>   >   >   > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Creighton Higgins"
>   >   >   > > <creighton@l...> wrote:
>   >   >   > > > In "Mr. Tambourine Man" aren't they "jingle 
jangles".
>   OK,
>   >   I'm
>   >   >   > > giving you the
>   >   >   > > > Byrd. :-|
>   >   >   > > >   -----Original Message-----
>   >   >   > > >   From: liberatusvirus [mailto:liberatusvirus@y...]
>   >   >   > > >   Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 6:22 PM
>   >   >   > > >   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>   >   >   > > >   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Tambourine Trivia
>   >   >   > > >
>   >   >   > > >
>   >   >   > > >   Jingles, I think, no?
>   >   >   > > >
>   >   >   > > >   --- In 
DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven"
>   >   >   > > <realvast@s...>
>   >   >   > > >   wrote:
>   >   >   > > >   > Does anyone know what the little silver "mini-
>   cymbal"
>   >   >   things
>   >   >   > on
>   >   >   > > >   the
>   >   >   > > >   > tambourine are called?  I'm talking about the
>   actual
>   >   sound
>   >   >   > > >   producing
>   >   >   > > >   > things...I've been wondering what they're
>   >   called...sorry
>   >   >   for
>   >   >   > a
>   >   >   > > >   lack
>   >   >   > > >   > of a knowledge about the thingies.
>   >   >   > > >   >
>   >   >   > > >   > -UN.H
>   >   >   > > >
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