Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

HI all,

I'm sure this question will have some of you yukking it up, but here 
goes anyway:

On my old acoustic set, I could play 16th notes off my high-hat/snare 
(I'm usally playing cross-handed, except for 16th stuff) by setting 
up the snare approx 45-60 degree angle from the hi-hat, so in effect 
when I'm playing the rapid 16th triplets it's easy to come off the hi-
hat and onto the snare. 

However, on the DTX, replicating the ideal positioning for hi-hat and 
snare to achieve 16th notes hasn't been easy for me. When I adjust 
the hi-hat so I can hit it cleanly, I'm screwed up trying to find the 
right position for the DTX's lower rack arm for the snare. Anybody 
with pictures, diagrams, etc? I'm not sure if I explained the problem 
with enough detail, but hopefully someone out there in DTX-land will 
understand what I'm trying to do. Ideally, I want to be able to look 
straight ahead to play around the kit, but for those songs where 
there's a repetitive 16th note attack, be able to swivel a little and 
face the hi-hat/snare straight on -- is that possible? Thank you in 
advance for whatever insights. Also, if there's a link or a message 
number where this question has already been answered, bring it on, 
too. I attempted to go through the database already, but didn't find 
anything. I know this was a bit "windy", but I'm done now. -- Draker.

Hey Draker, so I guess the point of your problem would be a problem 
with the hi hat positioning??  Or is it more the snare?  Maybe I can 
offer some ideas.  For example, instead of keeping the hi-hat pad on 
the snare rack-arm, you could move the hi-hat pad up to the arm that 
carries the xpress module.  I don't know if this helps, but maybe it 
could give your more positioning ideas.

-UN.H



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "draker2003" <draker2003@y...> 
wrote:
> HI all,
> 
> I'm sure this question will have some of you yukking it up, but 
here 
> goes anyway:
> 
> On my old acoustic set, I could play 16th notes off my high-
hat/snare 
> (I'm usally playing cross-handed, except for 16th stuff) by 
setting 
> up the snare approx 45-60 degree angle from the hi-hat, so in 
effect 
> when I'm playing the rapid 16th triplets it's easy to come off the 
hi-
> hat and onto the snare. 
> 
> However, on the DTX, replicating the ideal positioning for hi-hat 
and 
> snare to achieve 16th notes hasn't been easy for me. When I adjust 
> the hi-hat so I can hit it cleanly, I'm screwed up trying to find 
the 
> right position for the DTX's lower rack arm for the snare. Anybody 
> with pictures, diagrams, etc? I'm not sure if I explained the 
problem 
> with enough detail, but hopefully someone out there in DTX-land 
will 
> understand what I'm trying to do. Ideally, I want to be able to 
look 
> straight ahead to play around the kit, but for those songs where 
> there's a repetitive 16th note attack, be able to swivel a little 
and 
> face the hi-hat/snare straight on -- is that possible? Thank you 
in 
> advance for whatever insights. Also, if there's a link or a 
message 
> number where this question has already been answered, bring it on, 
> too. I attempted to go through the database already, but didn't 
find 
> anything. I know this was a bit "windy", but I'm done now. -- 
Draker.

--- underneathheaven  wrote:
> ... instead of keeping the hi-hat pad on 
> the snare rack-arm, you could move the hi-hat
> pad up to the arm that carries the xpress module.

I think this is essential, frankly. You're just too limited for 
relative positioning otherwise. The big issue is the size of the 
pads... on an acoustic kit, you might have 13" hats and a 14" snare, 
which means you can get the snare close enough to the hats to run 
16ths from the hats to somewhere on the snare, while still keeping 
the snare sweet spot in a sensible place. With two 8" pads, that's 
nigh-on impossible. This is one of the main reasons I "upgraded" the 
snare to a 10" Pintech, and the hit-hat to a TP65S. It's still far 
from perfect, but it ain't bad.

You can get an idea of what I mean here:
http://www.manley.org.uk/images/kit.jpg

Stewart

I invested in an extra clamp and long extension similar to the ones on the
Toms ... I place the HH at the top and the snare 1/2 way down or where ever
is comfortable at the time for the songs that I will be playing.

Scott









>On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:25:00  0000 moosetication <moosetication@...>
wrote.

>--- underneathheaven  wrote:
>> ... instead of keeping the hi-hat pad on 
>> the snare rack-arm, you could move the hi-hat
>> pad up to the arm that carries the xpress module.
>
>I think this is essential, frankly. You're just too limited for 
>relative positioning otherwise. The big issue is the size of the 
>pads... on an acoustic kit, you might have 13" hats and a 14" snare, 
>which means you can get the snare close enough to the hats to run 
>16ths from the hats to somewhere on the snare, while still keeping 
>the snare sweet spot in a sensible place. With two 8" pads, that's 
>nigh-on impossible. This is one of the main reasons I "upgraded" the 
>snare to a 10" Pintech, and the hit-hat to a TP65S. It's still far 
>from perfect, but it ain't bad.
>
>You can get an idea of what I mean here:
>http://www.manley.org.uk/images/kit.jpg
>
>Stewart
>
>
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