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Cymbal stuff

Cymbal stuff

2000-10-05 by Aaron Crim

Hey all,

Sorry I haven't been keeping up with the group, but judging by the amount of e-mails over the past month (compared to, say, 3 months before that) this group is expanding rapidly.

Well, after having the DTX for almost a year now I can say that I am still quite satisfied with my purchase.  The one problem that still haunts me, though, is cymbal pad response.  I'm constantly getting 2 triggers in a row when I only want one, due to vibrations--I think.  I finally decided that maybe the pad is too light-weight (I don't play very hard. I've tried everything I can think of to no avail. I'm seriously considering new cymbal pads, but would like to know if anyone has had any luck with their settings or even hardware configuration. Most of the time I end up substituting my middle tom for a ride.  What I'm looking for is great ride response at up-tempos playing jazz (quarter=180bpm to 270bpm/ching a-ching a-ching ching ching a-ching, etc.).

Peace,
Aaron

Re: [DTXpress] Cymbal stuff

2000-10-05 by Sanctum

There are some cymbal clamps out there that may help..

I don't know the manufacturer, but they are a spring assembly which you
attach to the top of your existing boom arm, the cymbal is clamped tightly
and rocks back and forth on the spring which joins the clamp to the body and
hence the boom arm.  There very simple, most drum stores stock them or can
order them, just ask for "sprung cymbal mounts" they should know what you
mean, describe them as an attachment which fits to the end of a boom arm and
holds the cymbal tightly on the end of a spring, allowing the cymbal to move
without the fear of keyholing.

Anyway, don't know if that'll fix the problem, but it looks good in
principle.


-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Crim <thoughtwar@...>
To: DTXpress@egroups.com <DTXpress@egroups.com>
Date: 05 October 2000 13:51
Subject: [DTXpress] Cymbal stuff


>Hey all,
>
>Sorry I haven't been keeping up with the group, but judging by the amount
of e-mails over the past month (compared to, say, 3 months before that) this
group is expanding rapidly.
>
>Well, after having the DTX for almost a year now I can say that I am still
quite satisfied with my purchase.  The one problem that still haunts me,
though, is cymbal pad response.  I'm constantly getting 2 triggers in a row
when I only want one, due to vibrations--I think.  I finally decided that
maybe the pad is too light-weight (I don't play very hard. I've tried
everything I can think of to no avail. I'm seriously considering new cymbal
pads, but would like to know if anyone has had any luck with their settings
or even hardware configuration. Most of the time I end up substituting my
middle tom for a ride.  What I'm looking for is great ride response at
up-tempos playing jazz (quarter=180bpm to 270bpm/ching a-ching a-ching ching
ching a-ching, etc.).
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>Peace,
>Aaron
>
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>
>
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Re: [DTXpress] Cymbal stuff

2000-10-06 by Brandon Paluzzi

Aquarian cymbal springs.

They come in two sizes, heavy and medium.  I haven't used them, but they
have received good reviews on vdrums.com

Brandon

On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Sanctum wrote:

> There are some cymbal clamps out there that may help..
> 
> I don't know the manufacturer, but they are a spring assembly which you
> attach to the top of your existing boom arm, the cymbal is clamped tightly
> and rocks back and forth on the spring which joins the clamp to the body and
> hence the boom arm.  There very simple, most drum stores stock them or can
> order them, just ask for "sprung cymbal mounts" they should know what you
> mean, describe them as an attachment which fits to the end of a boom arm and
> holds the cymbal tightly on the end of a spring, allowing the cymbal to move
> without the fear of keyholing.
> 
> Anyway, don't know if that'll fix the problem, but it looks good in
> principle.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Crim <thoughtwar@...>
> To: DTXpress@egroups.com <DTXpress@egroups.com>
> Date: 05 October 2000 13:51
> Subject: [DTXpress] Cymbal stuff
> 
> 
> >Hey all,
> >
> >Sorry I haven't been keeping up with the group, but judging by the amount
> of e-mails over the past month (compared to, say, 3 months before that) this
> group is expanding rapidly.
> >
> >Well, after having the DTX for almost a year now I can say that I am still
> quite satisfied with my purchase.  The one problem that still haunts me,
> though, is cymbal pad response.  I'm constantly getting 2 triggers in a row
> when I only want one, due to vibrations--I think.  I finally decided that
> maybe the pad is too light-weight (I don't play very hard. I've tried
> everything I can think of to no avail. I'm seriously considering new cymbal
> pads, but would like to know if anyone has had any luck with their settings
> or even hardware configuration. Most of the time I end up substituting my
> middle tom for a ride.  What I'm looking for is great ride response at
> up-tempos playing jazz (quarter=180bpm to 270bpm/ching a-ching a-ching ching
> ching a-ching, etc.).
> >
> >Peace,
> >Aaron
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Community email addresses:
> >  Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com
> >  Subscribe:    DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com
> >  Unsubscribe:  DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com
> >  List owner:   DTXpress-owner@onelist.com
> >
> >Shortcut URL to this page:
> >  http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress
> >
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
> 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  brandon@...  http://www.bpaluzzi.net

  Carnegie Mellon University
  Kiltie Band Drumline Instructor

Re: [DTXpress] Cymbal stuff

2000-10-06 by pdk

A,

What a coincidence. Your post hit the nail right on the head for me. Not
long ago I realized that I don't use the "ride" cymbal nearly as much as I
used to on my acoustic set. The reason--doesn't feel as good as the
cyberhat--too light and floppy. The cymbal pads work okay as a crash, but my
real ride cymbal is heavy and sturdy.

So recently I took tom 4 which I hardly ever used (the ds10 comes with 4
toms) and moved it up into ride position. I made the old "ride" cymbal pad
another crash, which I've always wanted anyway. Works great!

=========================================================================

pete

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> From: Aaron Crim <thoughtwar@...>
> Reply-To: DTXpress@egroups.com
> Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 08:50:03 -0400 (EDT)
> To: DTXpress@egroups.com
> Subject: [DTXpress] Cymbal stuff
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> Sorry I haven't been keeping up with the group, but judging by the amount of
> e-mails over the past month (compared to, say, 3 months before that) this
> group is expanding rapidly.
> 
> Well, after having the DTX for almost a year now I can say that I am still
> quite satisfied with my purchase.  The one problem that still haunts me,
> though, is cymbal pad response.  I'm constantly getting 2 triggers in a row
> when I only want one, due to vibrations--I think.  I finally decided that
> maybe the pad is too light-weight (I don't play very hard. I've tried
> everything I can think of to no avail. I'm seriously considering new cymbal
> pads, but would like to know if anyone has had any luck with their settings or
> even hardware configuration. Most of the time I end up substituting my middle
> tom for a ride.  What I'm looking for is great ride response at up-tempos
> playing jazz (quarter=180bpm to 270bpm/ching a-ching a-ching ching ching
> a-ching, etc.).
> 
> Peace,
> Aaron

Re: Cymbal stuff

2000-10-12 by tdjme@yahoo.com

Hi - don't know the answer to your problem, but I can least moan with 
you.  My new DTXpress is fine, but I am really dissapointed with the 
VOLUME and RESPONSE on the ride.  I have to really whack it, 
especially on some of the drum setups, to get a decent volume.  I 
notice that when I ride closer to the 'bell' area, rather than
towards 
the edge, I get a better response and volume.  Like you, I have 
considered doing something else in replacement to these cymbal pads.

Anyone else know what to do?

Tim

--- In DTXpress@egroups.com, Aaron Crim <thoughtwar@j...> wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> Sorry I haven't been keeping up with the group, but judging by the 
amount of e-mails over the past month (compared to, say, 3 months 
before that) this group is expanding rapidly.
> 
> Well, after having the DTX for almost a year now I can say that I
am 
still quite satisfied with my purchase.  The one problem that still 
haunts me, though, is cymbal pad response.  I'm constantly getting 2 
triggers in a row when I only want one, due to vibrations--I think. 
I 
finally decided that maybe the pad is too light-weight (I don't play 
very hard. I've tried everything I can think of to no avail. I'm 
seriously considering new cymbal pads, but would like to know if 
anyone has had any luck with their settings or even hardware 
configuration. Most of the time I end up substituting my middle tom 
for a ride.  What I'm looking for is great ride response at up-tempos 
playing jazz (quarter=180bpm to 270bpm/ching a-ching a-ching ching 
ching a-ching, etc.).
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> 
> Peace,
> Aaron

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Cymbal stuff

2000-10-12 by Mark T. Owen

You didn't say, but I assume you've tried adjusting the gain setting in the trigger set-up menu ?� I haven't used the stock cymbal sounds for a while, as i found them too...crappy ?� I crossfade a "ride" and a "bell" sound: the bell is set at a lower gain so that it responds only when I play close to the wingnut ( that says a lot !)� Likewise on the crash: i crossfade two crash sounds: one with lower gain than the other.� Check out the "phasey" crash sound you can get. It is similiar to the sound of a wildly swinging acoustic cymbal that has just been stunned by a killer blow from my stick!� See the tips and tricks section for details... Now you try one.

Mark

tdjme@... wrote:

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Hi - don't know the answer to your problem, but I can least moan with
you.� My new DTXpress is fine, but I am really dissapointed with the
VOLUME and RESPONSE on the ride.� I have to really whack it,
especially on some of the drum setups, to get a decent volume.� I
notice that when I ride closer to the 'bell' area, rather than
towards
the edge, I get a better response and volume.� Like you, I have
considered doing something else in replacement to these cymbal pads.

Anyone else know what to do?

Tim

--- In DTXpress@egroups.com, Aaron Crim wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Sorry I haven't been keeping up with the group, but judging by the
amount of e-mails over the past month (compared to, say, 3 months
before that) this group is expanding rapidly.
>
> Well, after having the DTX for almost a year now I can say that I
am
still quite satisfied with my purchase.� The one problem that still
haunts me, though, is cymbal pad response.� I'm constantly getting 2
triggers in a row when I only want one, due to vibrations--I think.
I
finally decided that maybe the pad is too light-weight (I don't play
very hard. I've tried everything I can think of to no avail. I'm
seriously considering new cymbal pads, but would like to know if
anyone has had any luck with their settings or even hardware
configuration. Most of the time I end up substituting my middle tom
for a ride.� What I'm looking for is great ride response at up-tempos
playing jazz (quarter=180bpm to 270bpm/ching a-ching a-ching ching
ching a-ching, etc.).
>
> Peace,
> Aaron


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