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Neighbors :(

Neighbors :(

2003-09-18 by anttipi

I know this isn't the first post on the issue and I kinda wish I had 
read about it earlier... I've just had the DTXpress II for two days 
and today at 8 pm there was a series of knocks (or thumps rather) 
from downstairs. Presumably because of the bass pedal vibrations :(. 
The floors are concrete with just a thin plastic carpeting. 

Tomorrow I guess I'll have to go and apologise and tell them/him/her 
that I'll put the whole set on a foam pad (with plywood on top to 
stabilise the set) which should dampen the vibrations and that I'll 
also change to lighter sticks. I can also agree to stop playing at 8 
pm, if necessary. I live in a student apartment block so as the 
neighbor(s) are roughly my age they SHOULD understand. 

-Antti

Re: [DTXpress] Neighbors :(

2003-09-18 by Vernon Graner

You might want to look at this link:

http://www.dtxpressions.com

then click on "links" and look for "Plans for Drum Isolation Platform"

or just go stright there with this link:

http://www.dtxpressions.com/platform

:)

And yes, use the lightest sticks you can. And yes, people on a 2nd floor
have the worst time of it. :(

Vern

-- 
Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE    | "If the network is down, then you're
Senior Systems Engineer    | obviously incompetent so why are we
Texas Information Services | paying you? Of course, if the network
http://www.txis.com        | is up, then we obviously don't need
Austin Office 512 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG




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> and today at 8 pm there was a series of knocks (or thumps rather)
> from downstairs. Presumably because of the bass pedal vibrations :(.
> The floors are concrete with just a thin plastic carpeting.
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> that I'll put the whole set on a foam pad (with plywood on top to
> stabilise the set) which should dampen the vibrations and that I'll
> also change to lighter sticks. I can also agree to stop playing at 8
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Re: Neighbors :(

2003-09-19 by anttipi

Has anyone ever compared using a plywood board on a foam pad against 
the tennis ball thing? Is the tennis ball method more effective for 
some specific reason?

It seems the foam pad didn't work perfectly or at least I think the 
plywood is directing the sound waves more towards the walls now. I 
can hear it when I put my ear against the wall of a another (not an 
adjacent) room in my apartment (with someone hitting the pads, of 
course :)). The foam should in any case be eliminating the 
vibrations. So am I right in assuming that the "noise level" heard 
DOWNSTAIRS must have diminished even a little because of the foam?

By the way, I asked my downstairs neighbor if they had heard any 
noise. She says she hears it but that it's bearable ('cause I don't 
play at night). Anyway, here in Finland people never say anything to 
you directly but rather complain behind your back. So the noise level 
thing might still be a mystery. 

Any comments or encouraging words are appreciated!
I love my DTXpress and would like to be able to play it without 
having to worry about these kind of things.  

-Antti.




--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon Graner" <vern@t...> wrote:
> You might want to look at this link:
> 
> http://www.dtxpressions.com
> 
> then click on "links" and look for "Plans for Drum Isolation 
Platform"
> 
> or just go stright there with this link:
> 
> http://www.dtxpressions.com/platform
> 
> :)
> 
> And yes, use the lightest sticks you can. And yes, people on a 2nd 
floor
> have the worst time of it. :(
> 
> Vern
> 
> -- 
> Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE    | "If the network is down, then you're
> Senior Systems Engineer    | obviously incompetent so why are we
> Texas Information Services | paying you? Of course, if the network
> http://www.txis.com        | is up, then we obviously don't need
> Austin Office 512 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG
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> anttipi said:
> > I know this isn't the first post on the issue and I kinda wish I 
had
> > read about it earlier... I've just had the DTXpress II for two 
days
> > and today at 8 pm there was a series of knocks (or thumps rather)
> > from downstairs. Presumably because of the bass pedal vibrations :
(.
> > The floors are concrete with just a thin plastic carpeting.
> >
> > Tomorrow I guess I'll have to go and apologise and tell 
them/him/her
> > that I'll put the whole set on a foam pad (with plywood on top to
> > stabilise the set) which should dampen the vibrations and that 
I'll
> > also change to lighter sticks. I can also agree to stop playing 
at 8
> > pm, if necessary. I live in a student apartment block so as the
> > neighbor(s) are roughly my age they SHOULD understand.
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> > -Antti
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Re: Neighbors :(

2003-09-21 by asdascc

Hy!

Can you show us a real platform with some pictures please? I'm 
interested too.

Thanks!

Re: Neighbors :(

2003-09-21 by liberatusvirus

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "asdascc" <asdascc@y...> wrote:
> Can you show us a real platform with some pictures please? I'm 
> interested too.

How are ya,

For some pictures of the steps and final tennis-ball platform, go to 
dtxpressions.com, click on the "Links" option, and select the last 
one (platform) in the list.

Ed

Re: Neighbors :(

2003-09-21 by peterpan

some dude found a solution, bloody expensive though:
http://www.vdrums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10172

pete






--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "asdascc" <asdascc@y...> wrote:
> > Can you show us a real platform with some pictures please? I'm 
> > interested too.
> 
> How are ya,
> 
> For some pictures of the steps and final tennis-ball platform, go 
to 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> dtxpressions.com, click on the "Links" option, and select the last 
> one (platform) in the list.
> 
> Ed

Re: Neighbors :(

2003-09-21 by anttipi

I had plywood on top of a foam pad but removed the plywood as it only 
seemed to *amplify* low frequencies (even though the vibrations 
seemed to disappear). At least the vibrations no longer reach the 
concrete floor. I could also try a sound-proof rubber mattress 
underneath the foam but I think the vibrations were the main problem 
because the actual sound of the pads is not loud at all.

I tested it by pressing my ear against the floor (!) and listening at 
various points in my apartment. My girlfriend was beating the bass 
drum, first softly then hard, and from what I learned I can say my 
downstairs neighbors CAN'T be disturbed anymore. I compared the bass 
drum sound to my girlfriend simply walking around - I could hear her 
feet vibrating but not the bass drum! In other words, the foam worked 
perfectly.

I went to a local music store and explained my situation. The 
reaction: "What?! Neighbors complaining about E-DRUMS?!". That just 
about says everything. If I played classical on a piano (which is WAY 
louder) they would probably tolerate it better. But DRUMS in an 
apartment - no way!!!

-Antti

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "peterpan" <malakies2000@y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> some dude found a solution, bloody expensive though:
> http://www.vdrums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10172
> 
> pete
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "asdascc" <asdascc@y...> wrote:
> > > Can you show us a real platform with some pictures please? I'm 
> > > interested too.
> > 
> > How are ya,
> > 
> > For some pictures of the steps and final tennis-ball platform, go 
> to 
> > dtxpressions.com, click on the "Links" option, and select the 
last 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > one (platform) in the list.
> > 
> > Ed

Re: Neighbors :(

2003-09-21 by peterpan

i was thinking of buying a soundproof mat (or perhaps a couple) and 
placing them under the drums. like these ones here:

http://www.customaudiodesigns.co.uk/soundproofing.htm

has anyone tried this for a solution? or perhaps a gym mat that they 
use in schools for gymnastics. i can't really afford to construct an 
expensive base, just wanted to soften the vibrations as much as 
possible. do u guys think this might help at all?  there is carpet 
all over our student house, so the mat would not sit directly on top 
of a wooden or concrete floor. the drums are fine, its just that damn 
kick pad...

pete 



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "anttipi" <anttipi@y...> wrote:
> I had plywood on top of a foam pad but removed the plywood as it 
only 
> seemed to *amplify* low frequencies (even though the vibrations 
> seemed to disappear). At least the vibrations no longer reach the 
> concrete floor. I could also try a sound-proof rubber mattress 
> underneath the foam but I think the vibrations were the main 
problem 
> because the actual sound of the pads is not loud at all.
> 
> I tested it by pressing my ear against the floor (!) and listening 
at 
> various points in my apartment. My girlfriend was beating the bass 
> drum, first softly then hard, and from what I learned I can say my 
> downstairs neighbors CAN'T be disturbed anymore. I compared the 
bass 
> drum sound to my girlfriend simply walking around - I could hear 
her 
> feet vibrating but not the bass drum! In other words, the foam 
worked 
> perfectly.
> 
> I went to a local music store and explained my situation. The 
> reaction: "What?! Neighbors complaining about E-DRUMS?!". That just 
> about says everything. If I played classical on a piano (which is 
WAY 
> louder) they would probably tolerate it better. But DRUMS in an 
> apartment - no way!!!
> 
> -Antti
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "peterpan" <malakies2000@y...> 
wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > some dude found a solution, bloody expensive though:
> > http://www.vdrums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10172
> > 
> > pete
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "asdascc" <asdascc@y...> wrote:
> > > > Can you show us a real platform with some pictures please? 
I'm 
> > > > interested too.
> > > 
> > > How are ya,
> > > 
> > > For some pictures of the steps and final tennis-ball platform, 
go 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > to 
> > > dtxpressions.com, click on the "Links" option, and select the 
> last 
> > > one (platform) in the list.
> > > 
> > > Ed

Re: Neighbors :(

2003-09-21 by anttipi

Pete, I think foam is cheap and very good for eliminating the 
vibrations. A soundproof mat may be good for stopping sound waves but 
I don't know if it's the best solution for vibrations which are the 
main concern here. 

My dad found somewhere a piece of used "heavy duty" foam for me at a 
fraction of the cost of soundproof rubber mats (almost for free). On 
top of the foam pad I have a thin regular rubber mat just to prevent 
the pedals from ripping the foam. It is stable enough to support the 
rack - my set stands just a few inches from the floor with my drum 
stool placed on solid floor. Works ok. 

I also considered the "tennis ball method" but I was worried that the 
empty space between the two plywood pieces might actually work as an 
amplifying "soundbox" of some sort (of course I may be completely 
wrong 'cause I haven't tested it). The foam at least effectively 
kills off the vibrations. 

-Antti



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "peterpan" <malakies2000@y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> i was thinking of buying a soundproof mat (or perhaps a couple) and 
> placing them under the drums. like these ones here:
> 
> http://www.customaudiodesigns.co.uk/soundproofing.htm
> 
> has anyone tried this for a solution? or perhaps a gym mat that 
they 
> use in schools for gymnastics. i can't really afford to construct 
an 
> expensive base, just wanted to soften the vibrations as much as 
> possible. do u guys think this might help at all?  there is carpet 
> all over our student house, so the mat would not sit directly on 
top 
> of a wooden or concrete floor. the drums are fine, its just that 
damn 
> kick pad...
> 
> pete 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "anttipi" <anttipi@y...> wrote:
> > I had plywood on top of a foam pad but removed the plywood as it 
> only 
> > seemed to *amplify* low frequencies (even though the vibrations 
> > seemed to disappear). At least the vibrations no longer reach the 
> > concrete floor. I could also try a sound-proof rubber mattress 
> > underneath the foam but I think the vibrations were the main 
> problem 
> > because the actual sound of the pads is not loud at all.
> > 
> > I tested it by pressing my ear against the floor (!) and 
listening 
> at 
> > various points in my apartment. My girlfriend was beating the 
bass 
> > drum, first softly then hard, and from what I learned I can say 
my 
> > downstairs neighbors CAN'T be disturbed anymore. I compared the 
> bass 
> > drum sound to my girlfriend simply walking around - I could hear 
> her 
> > feet vibrating but not the bass drum! In other words, the foam 
> worked 
> > perfectly.
> > 
> > I went to a local music store and explained my situation. The 
> > reaction: "What?! Neighbors complaining about E-DRUMS?!". That 
just 
> > about says everything. If I played classical on a piano (which is 
> WAY 
> > louder) they would probably tolerate it better. But DRUMS in an 
> > apartment - no way!!!
> > 
> > -Antti
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "peterpan" <malakies2000@y...> 
> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > some dude found a solution, bloody expensive though:
> > > http://www.vdrums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10172
> > > 
> > > pete
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "asdascc" <asdascc@y...> 
wrote:
> > > > > Can you show us a real platform with some pictures please? 
> I'm 
> > > > > interested too.
> > > > 
> > > > How are ya,
> > > > 
> > > > For some pictures of the steps and final tennis-ball 
platform, 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> go 
> > > to 
> > > > dtxpressions.com, click on the "Links" option, and select the 
> > last 
> > > > one (platform) in the list.
> > > > 
> > > > Ed

Re: Neighbors :(

2003-09-22 by moosetication

--- anttipi wrote:
> A soundproof mat may be good for stopping sound waves but 
> I don't know if it's the best solution for vibrations...

Hmm. It is, of course, many centuries since I did physics, but I 
suspect that sound is still transmitted in the same manner it was 
back then. Namely, by vibrations. The difference is one of frequency.

Stewart

Re: Neighbors :(

2003-09-22 by anttipi

Yeah, by vibrations I meant those (very low?) frequencies that the 
vibrating rack and bass pedal send through a concrete floor. By 
ordinary "sound waves" I meant the sound (somewhat higher 
frequencies) YOU hear in your apartment when you hit the pads. The 
terminology was wrong, I admit, but I was just trying to illustrate 
my point. 

My logic (which once again may be at fault) says the softer the 
platform material, the better it eliminates the kind of structure-
borne vibrations we are talking about here. The harder the material, 
the better the vibrations are transmitted further onto the floor. Now 
I'm no expert in soundproof mats - which of course work in their own 
specific ways - but at least I know they are quite a bit more 
expensive than foam. 

-Antti




--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...> 
wrote:
> --- anttipi wrote:
> > A soundproof mat may be good for stopping sound waves but 
> > I don't know if it's the best solution for vibrations...
> 
> Hmm. It is, of course, many centuries since I did physics, but I 
> suspect that sound is still transmitted in the same manner it was 
> back then. Namely, by vibrations. The difference is one of 
frequency.
> 
> Stewart

Re: Neighbors :(

2003-09-22 by liberatusvirus

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "anttipi" <anttipi@y...> wrote:
> Yeah, by vibrations I meant those (very low?) frequencies that the 
> vibrating rack and bass pedal send through a concrete floor. By 
> ordinary "sound waves" I meant the sound (somewhat higher 
> frequencies) YOU hear in your apartment when you hit the pads. The 
> terminology was wrong, I admit, but I was just trying to illustrate 
> my point. 
> 
> My logic (which once again may be at fault) says the softer the 
> platform material, the better it eliminates the kind of structure-
> borne vibrations we are talking about here. The harder the 
material, 
> the better the vibrations are transmitted further onto the floor. 
Now 
> I'm no expert in soundproof mats - which of course work in their 
own 
> specific ways - but at least I know they are quite a bit more 
> expensive than foam. 

As you guys say, it's all sound waves and vibrations, and the long 
waves of those bass frequencies can cover some ground. Foam will 
absorb sound; people frequently use it to eliminate standing waves 
and improve a room's response. But it will not eliminate stray noise. 
Sometimes absorption is enough to satisfy the neighbors--especially 
when unamplified e-drums are the problem--sometimes not. The only way 
to eliminate noise outside the desired confines to to add structure 
and to keep the possibilities of it propagating vibration as low as 
possible. I'm no expert (far from it), but I've heard of double 
walls, fiberglass insulation, pressboard, plexiglass, and judicious 
caulking all coming into play to create mass, weight, rigidity, 
distance, and absorption. Any open spaces between joints and layers, 
however, could cause the structure to vibrate (like a speaker) and 
defeat the purpose. So any binding has to be tight, and the thicker 
the intervening area is, the more the waves will dissipate. E-drums 
don't create any particular low frequencies, but the thump of the 
kick pedal through a floor can be annoying to others. Decoupling it 
from the floor with as thick a carpet as possible and/or raising it 
up on an another absorbent platform might be all an apartment dweller 
can do--in conjunction with diplomacy, that is.

Ed

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Neighbors :(

2003-09-22 by nick menemen

ok guys!here is the deal.Please tell me how i can load (in the dtxpress brain)kits.i have the cable i am connected i hold the manual but nothin happens.is there any site that i can do this step by step? 

peterpan <malakies2000@...> wrote:

i was thinking of buying a soundproof mat (or perhaps a couple) and 
placing them under the drums. like these ones here:

http://www.customaudiodesigns.co.uk/soundproofing.htm

has anyone tried this for a solution? or perhaps a gym mat that they 
use in schools for gymnastics. i can't really afford to construct an 
expensive base, just wanted to soften the vibrations as much as 
possible. do u guys think this might help at all?  there is carpet 
all over our student house, so the mat would not sit directly on top 
of a wooden or concrete floor. the drums are fine, its just that damn 
kick pad...

pete 



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "anttipi" <anttipi@y...> wrote:
> I had plywood on top of a foam pad but removed the plywood as it 
only 
> seemed to *amplify* low frequencies (even though the vibrations 
> seemed to disappear). At least the vibrations no longer reach the 
> concrete floor. I could also try a sound-proof rubber mattress 
> underneath the foam but I think the vibrations were the main 
problem 
> because the actual sound of the pads is not loud at all.
> 
> I tested it by pressing my ear against the floor (!) and listening 
at 
> various points in my apartment. My girlfriend was beating the bass 
> drum, first softly then hard, and from what I learned I can say my 
> downstairs neighbors CAN'T be disturbed anymore. I compared the 
bass 
> drum sound to my girlfriend simply walking around - I could hear 
her 
> feet vibrating but not the bass drum! In other words, the foam 
worked 
> perfectly.
> 
> I went to a local music store and explained my situation. The 
> reaction: "What?! Neighbors complaining about E-DRUMS?!". That just 
> about says everything. If I played classical on a piano (which is 
WAY 
> louder) they would probably tolerate it better. But DRUMS in an 
> apartment - no way!!!
> 
> -Antti
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "peterpan" <malakies2000@y...> 
wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > some dude found a solution, bloody expensive though:
> > http://www.vdrums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10172
> > 
> > pete
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "asdascc" <asdascc@y...> wrote:
> > > > Can you show us a real platform with some pictures please? 
I'm 
> > > > interested too.
> > > 
> > > How are ya,
> > > 
> > > For some pictures of the steps and final tennis-ball platform, 
go 
> > to 
> > > dtxpressions.com, click on the "Links" option, and select the 
> last 
> > > one (platform) in the list.
> > > 
> > > Ed


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DTXpress != sampler.. (was RE: Neighbors )

2003-09-22 by Vernon Graner

Hi nick,

I changed the subject on your question since it no longer has to do with
soundproofing your kit. As has been discussed before, there is no way to
add sampled drum sounds to the DTXpress module. You can use the DTXpress
module to trigger the samples in an external MIDI sampler unit. The sound
set that is in the DTXpress modules is in ROM (READ ONLY memory) so there
is no way to add new samples.

This doesn't mean you cannot change the way the existing samples *sound*,
you can use layering and ADSR envelopes, tuning etc to make some pretty
amazing new sounds. There are some very interesting kits in the
http://www.dtxpressions.com downloads area. I'd start by exploring those
and then ask on the list if you have any questions. :)

Vern

-- 
Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE    | "If the network is down, then you're
Senior Systems Engineer    | obviously incompetent so why are we
Texas Information Services | paying you? Of course, if the network
http://www.txis.com        | is up, then we obviously don't need
Austin Office 512 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG




nick menemen said:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> ok guys!here is the deal.Please tell me how i can load (in the dtxpress
> brain)kits.i have the cable i am connected i hold the manual but nothin
> happens.is there any site that i can do this step by step?
>
> peterpan <malakies2000@...> wrote:
>
> i was thinking of buying a soundproof mat (or perhaps a couple) and
> placing them under the drums. like these ones here:
>
> http://www.customaudiodesigns.co.uk/soundproofing.htm
>
> has anyone tried this for a solution? or perhaps a gym mat that they
> use in schools for gymnastics. i can't really afford to construct an
> expensive base, just wanted to soften the vibrations as much as
> possible. do u guys think this might help at all?  there is carpet
> all over our student house, so the mat would not sit directly on top
> of a wooden or concrete floor. the drums are fine, its just that damn
> kick pad...
>
> pete
>
>
>
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "anttipi" <anttipi@y...> wrote:
>> I had plywood on top of a foam pad but removed the plywood as it
> only
>> seemed to *amplify* low frequencies (even though the vibrations
>> seemed to disappear). At least the vibrations no longer reach the
>> concrete floor. I could also try a sound-proof rubber mattress
>> underneath the foam but I think the vibrations were the main
> problem
>> because the actual sound of the pads is not loud at all.
>>
>> I tested it by pressing my ear against the floor (!) and listening
> at
>> various points in my apartment. My girlfriend was beating the bass
>> drum, first softly then hard, and from what I learned I can say my
>> downstairs neighbors CAN'T be disturbed anymore. I compared the
> bass
>> drum sound to my girlfriend simply walking around - I could hear
> her
>> feet vibrating but not the bass drum! In other words, the foam
> worked
>> perfectly.
>>
>> I went to a local music store and explained my situation. The
>> reaction: "What?! Neighbors complaining about E-DRUMS?!". That just
>> about says everything. If I played classical on a piano (which is
> WAY
>> louder) they would probably tolerate it better. But DRUMS in an
>> apartment - no way!!!
>>
>> -Antti
>>
>> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "peterpan" <malakies2000@y...>
> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > some dude found a solution, bloody expensive though:
>> > http://www.vdrums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10172
>> >
>> > pete
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus"
>> > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
>> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "asdascc" <asdascc@y...> wrote:
>> > > > Can you show us a real platform with some pictures please?
> I'm
>> > > > interested too.
>> > >
>> > > How are ya,
>> > >
>> > > For some pictures of the steps and final tennis-ball platform,
> go
>> > to
>> > > dtxpressions.com, click on the "Links" option, and select the
>> last
>> > > one (platform) in the list.
>> > >
>> > > Ed
>
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Re: Neighbors :(

2003-09-22 by astrami

I actually have one of the quietfloor mats (I only needed one).  I 
had a flat with just basic wooden floorboards and found it was the 
impact vibrations just going straight downstairs; even though i had 
the kick on underlay and carpet, it was being amplified by the floor, 
in fact I might just as well have been laying into the floor it was 
so loud).  This solution worked for me.  But obviously the lower down 
the frequency range we go the longer the soundwave, so in theory the 
thicker the substance required to absorb it.  But it certainly took 
the punch out of the initial impact, it doesn't kill it completely 
though.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "peterpan" <malakies2000@y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> i was thinking of buying a soundproof mat (or perhaps a couple) and 
> placing them under the drums. like these ones here:
> 
> http://www.customaudiodesigns.co.uk/soundproofing.htm
> 
> has anyone tried this for a solution? or perhaps a gym mat that 
they 
> use in schools for gymnastics. i can't really afford to construct 
an 
> expensive base, just wanted to soften the vibrations as much as 
> possible. do u guys think this might help at all?  there is carpet 
> all over our student house, so the mat would not sit directly on 
top 
> of a wooden or concrete floor. the drums are fine, its just that 
damn 
> kick pad...
> 
> pete 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "anttipi" <anttipi@y...> wrote:
> > I had plywood on top of a foam pad but removed the plywood as it 
> only 
> > seemed to *amplify* low frequencies (even though the vibrations 
> > seemed to disappear). At least the vibrations no longer reach the 
> > concrete floor. I could also try a sound-proof rubber mattress 
> > underneath the foam but I think the vibrations were the main 
> problem 
> > because the actual sound of the pads is not loud at all.
> > 
> > I tested it by pressing my ear against the floor (!) and 
listening 
> at 
> > various points in my apartment. My girlfriend was beating the 
bass 
> > drum, first softly then hard, and from what I learned I can say 
my 
> > downstairs neighbors CAN'T be disturbed anymore. I compared the 
> bass 
> > drum sound to my girlfriend simply walking around - I could hear 
> her 
> > feet vibrating but not the bass drum! In other words, the foam 
> worked 
> > perfectly.
> > 
> > I went to a local music store and explained my situation. The 
> > reaction: "What?! Neighbors complaining about E-DRUMS?!". That 
just 
> > about says everything. If I played classical on a piano (which is 
> WAY 
> > louder) they would probably tolerate it better. But DRUMS in an 
> > apartment - no way!!!
> > 
> > -Antti
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "peterpan" <malakies2000@y...> 
> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > some dude found a solution, bloody expensive though:
> > > http://www.vdrums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10172
> > > 
> > > pete
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "asdascc" <asdascc@y...> 
wrote:
> > > > > Can you show us a real platform with some pictures please? 
> I'm 
> > > > > interested too.
> > > > 
> > > > How are ya,
> > > > 
> > > > For some pictures of the steps and final tennis-ball 
platform, 
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> go 
> > > to 
> > > > dtxpressions.com, click on the "Links" option, and select the 
> > last 
> > > > one (platform) in the list.
> > > > 
> > > > Ed

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