Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Ok I'm fresh back from the music store again. Before I went in, I 
thought I would walk out with the Dtxpress III, but I didn't. It was 
the Sp version with the hi-hat and all. 
Lately, I put a little money into my DTXpress I and have been happy 
with it. I just hated the cymbals. Today I found out how much the new 
cymbals cost. 3 zone ride = 15,000 yen....to me it's like 150 dollars 
American. 2 zone crash = 12,000 (120 dollars) and the 1 zone 
crash=8,500yen (85 bucks) Hi-hat a whopping 26,000 yen (260 dollars) 
By the way, the response on the hi-hat is really not good. I was 
shocked.
Anyway, I'm thinking if I should buy the cymbals. I'm still not sure 
what my DTXpress I can get out of them. For those prices what do you 
think? I gotta place my order asap so I can get them for my gig next 
Saturday.

Oh yeah, the cymbals all come with the stoppers that fit on the stand.

Help me guys, you are my only hope.

Jon in Japan

--- JOn in Japan wrote:
> Today I found out how much the new 
> cymbals cost.

Hmmm. Well, in UK terms those are not too horrific. We always pay 
more than you would in the US anyway (about one-for-one to the 
dollar, despite the conversion rate). Those prices convert as about 
£80 for the PCY150, £64 for the PCY130S, £45 for the PCY130. Given 
that a regular PCY65S is £45 and a TP65S is £80, those prices don't 
fail the falling-off-the-chair test. That hi-hat comes out at a 
whopping £138 however. Which leads me to...

> By the way, the response on the hi-hat is really
> not good. I was shocked.

That's a worry. In what way was it "not good"? What was the response 
on the other cymbals like?

> Anyway, I'm thinking if I should buy the cymbals. I'm
> still not sure what my DTXpress I can get out of them.

Well, the DTXpressI can't do three-zone can it? Which makes the 
PCY150 a bit pointless. The 130S and 130 should be usable, however.

Stewart

Thanks Stewart,

You are totally right the pcy150s is meaningless. I was actually 
still in acoustic mode. The size made me think "ride" so I wanted 
it.  So my DtxpressI CAN handle 2 zones? So I could use 2 PCY130s as 
a crash and a ride. So, to have two crash, would it be meaningless to 
use another PCY130s? In total 3 of them? 

I wasn't ever intending to buy the hi-hat. On the set I played the 
time from stepping on the pedal to when the hat opened and closed was 
slower than my kit. But that might just be a setting problem. Another 
point is that the stock hi-hat stand is not so sturdy and you get 
another thing to carry around.

So now I'm still torn between working with my set or getting the 3. 

Thanks a lot Stewart. What you don't know can hurt you.

Jon in Japan

The crashes are a good idea but personaly I'm not into the hi-hats at 
all.I find that a traditional style hi-hat stand is hard to use with 
a double bass pedal. One of the reasons I switched from acoustic to e-
drums was that you can put your hi-hats anywere you want. Most of my 
pre-set drumkits have 2 sets of hats. I use the rim of my floor tom 
as a closed set of hats for when I'm using both bass pedals and can't 
hold the hats closed.

George

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "G" <kickflippin@h...> wrote:
> The crashes are a good idea but personaly I'm not into the hi-hats 
at 
> all.I find that a traditional style hi-hat stand is hard to use 
with 
> a double bass pedal. One of the reasons I switched from acoustic 
to e-
> drums was that you can put your hi-hats anywere you want. Most of 
my 
> pre-set drumkits have 2 sets of hats. I use the rim of my floor 
tom 
> as a closed set of hats for when I'm using both bass pedals and 
can't 
> hold the hats closed.
> 
> George


George,

I have three hihats set up (using PCY65S pads) located on the left 
side, middle, and right side.

The left and right side are setup to function as "normal" hihats. 
The middle one is setup as a "reverse" hihat: pedal up=closed hihat, 
pedal down=open hihat. This way when playing double-bass, I can use 
the middle pad for a closed hihat. By using PCY65S, I get bow/edge 
sounds.

With the four-day holiday weekend, I found some extra time to 
reconfigure my set. I created a three-zone (cup/bow/edge) hihat for 
the left side that is controlled by a single HH65 pedal on the left 
side of the kit. Also, to go back to just two hihat pedals, I have 
patched the middle and right hihat pads to a single HH65 Pedal that 
sits on the right side. 

OGD