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Dtxpress download to minidisc?

Dtxpress download to minidisc?

2003-12-04 by gt090170

Hi all,

First post so be gentle with me!
This may be a naive question. Was thinking of buying a minidisc or 
Mp3 player. Can recordings made on the dtxpress be downloaded to 
minidisc or Mp3 player? - if yes, what do you advise is the best 
option?

I would also like to make crude recordings of band rehearsals using 
live drums with minidisc just for analysis purposes. I know some 
minidisc players have a mic input, how about Mp3 players? - has 
anyone tried this? is this possible?

Thanks in advance for your help.

GT.

Re: Dtxpress download to minidisc?

2003-12-04 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "gt090170" <gt090170@y...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> First post so be gentle with me!
> This may be a naive question. Was thinking of buying a minidisc or 
> Mp3 player. Can recordings made on the dtxpress be downloaded to 
> minidisc or Mp3 player? - if yes, what do you advise is the best 
> option?
> 
> I would also like to make crude recordings of band rehearsals using 
> live drums with minidisc just for analysis purposes. I know some 
> minidisc players have a mic input, how about Mp3 players? - has 
> anyone tried this? is this possible?
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.

Hi GT,

I'll be up front with you. I don't have much direct experience with 
minidisc and mp3. But I can tell you that anything that can be played 
on the DTXpress module is capable of being recorded through its 
stereo, or mono, output on the back. I know that the higher-end 
minidisc, DAT, hard-drive, and cassette-tape field recorders would be 
able to take the feed from the module, or from live mics during 
practice. Hell, back in the Dark Ages, we used to record our 
practices on a little mono Aiwa tape deck with a built-in condenser 
mic and a limiter. It was a perfectly acceptable tool, not much low 
frequency in evidence, though all of the basic information was there. 
When we graduated to a Studiomaster 4-track recorder, the Aiwa was 
gone but not forgotten. The Studiomaster was so good that I've tried 
recently to get my hands on another one. But it was scarce in the 
first place (Tascam and Fostex owned that market), and Studiomaster 
doesn't make recorders anymore. 

Even a pro-quality, fairly elaborate field cassette recorder, like 
the Marantz PMD-222, would set you back $700 or so, and the minidisc 
recorders (like the PMD-650) go for about a grand. I'm afraid that I 
don't know the market well enough to say whether any cheaper options 
exist that allow live recording. But in this day and age, if money is 
short, you certainly don't have to retreat to the Aiwa-type situation 
of the good old days. 

Here's a couple of suggestions: If recording to a PC via recording 
software isn't an option, you could a four-track cassette recorder 
from Fostex or Tascam, record your live practices with it, and use 
the tapes for analyis. YOu could also do more ambitious studio-type 
recording, by laying down tracks individually, adding effects, and 
bouncing them as necessary. When finished, you could mix down to a 
two-track cassette deck or burn to a CD recorder, either  stand-alone 
or PC. The extant new ones wouldn't break the bank, but a used Tascam 
Portastudio or Fostex 280 etc. would set you back $100, or even less, 
on ebay. Another cost-effective option would be something like the 
Fostex MR-8 digital recorder, which does what the cassette recorders 
used to do, except more conveniently. Though it records only two 
tracks at a time, you could use a mixer to divide the band up. Then 
you could do overdubs for vocals, other instruments, etc. The MR-8 is 
currently selling at a very reasonable $270 at Musicians Friend; the 
version with the CD-burner already attached is relatively affordable, 
too.

Anyway, this is what occurs to me off the top of my head, based on 
your question.

Ed

Re: Dtxpress download to minidisc?

2003-12-04 by Jay

GT, as you can see in my last post that I use a MiniDisc to record all
of my bands' practices. It works great if you have a mixer to run all
of your live mics into before going to the MiniDisc. Some MiniDiscs do
have a pre-amp mic input in them, where theoretically all you would
have to do is setup a stereo mic in the room to record your band. I
wouldn't count on a decent recording that way though.

And there are MP3 players out there that allow you to record to. We
have considered getting one, but the MiniDisc works so great, and was
so much cheaper, that we'll probably just stick with it. You can pick
up a great MiniDisc for <$100 that will do everything you need.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "gt090170" <gt090170@y...> wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> First post so be gentle with me!
> This may be a naive question. Was thinking of buying a minidisc or 
> Mp3 player. Can recordings made on the dtxpress be downloaded to 
> minidisc or Mp3 player? - if yes, what do you advise is the best 
> option?
> 
> I would also like to make crude recordings of band rehearsals using 
> live drums with minidisc just for analysis purposes. I know some 
> minidisc players have a mic input, how about Mp3 players? - has 
> anyone tried this? is this possible?
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> 
> GT.

Re: Dtxpress download to minidisc?

2003-12-04 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Jay" <jayluv6@y...> wrote:
> GT, as you can see in my last post that I use a MiniDisc to record 
all
> of my bands' practices. It works great if you have a mixer to run 
all
> of your live mics into before going to the MiniDisc. Some MiniDiscs 
do
> have a pre-amp mic input in them, where theoretically all you would
> have to do is setup a stereo mic in the room to record your band. I
> wouldn't count on a decent recording that way though.
> 
> And there are MP3 players out there that allow you to record to. We
> have considered getting one, but the MiniDisc works so great, and 
was
> so much cheaper, that we'll probably just stick with it. You can 
pick
> up a great MiniDisc for <$100 that will do everything you need.

Jay,

Just to edify us completely, what model mindisc recorder do you use? 
Can you give us a list of options so that the archives will have 
something next time someone asks?

Ed

Re: Dtxpress download to minidisc?

2003-12-04 by Jay

Sure thing:

I use the Sony MZ-N505 Personal MiniDisc Player. It is a little hard
to find (I've had mine over a year now), but you can get some good
info on epinions.com about it:
http://www.epinions.com/Sony_MZ_N505_MiniDisc_Recorder__finish_Silver___Portable_MiniDisc_Player_MZN505_S

As for options, there isn't a whole lot. It's very simple to use. But
I do make some settings adjustments:

1) Set the record level to "manual" and adjust it to the highest level
possible. 

2) Set the encoding to use the MDLP (Minidisc "Long Play") speed of
LP2. This way you can get up to 160 minutes of CD quality stereo.


And my mixer is some low quality knockoff that I picked up at guitar
center for about $50. It is definitely nothing special. 8 channels
with 4 XLR preamps. I run stereo cables from the mixer directly into
the MiniDisc.

Once my DXTPRESSII arrives (only 4 more weeks!) I will happily
describe how it is setup. Right now I use 3 mics for my Pearl kit: 1
on the kick, 1 for the snare/hi hat, and 1 overhead for toms and ride.
The 3 mics take up the first 3 channels of the mixer, and we mic the
guitar cab on the 4th XLR and run direct in from the bass amp and vox.

Believe it or not, this setup records great. If you wanna see an
action shot, go here: http://digichapman.com/gallery/Bandhole/IMG_0185

You can see the 2 mics, barely.


Let me know if you would like anything else Ed.




--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
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> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Jay" <jayluv6@y...> wrote:
> > GT, as you can see in my last post that I use a MiniDisc to record 
> all
> > of my bands' practices. It works great if you have a mixer to run 
> all
> > of your live mics into before going to the MiniDisc. Some MiniDiscs 
> do
> > have a pre-amp mic input in them, where theoretically all you would
> > have to do is setup a stereo mic in the room to record your band. I
> > wouldn't count on a decent recording that way though.
> > 
> > And there are MP3 players out there that allow you to record to. We
> > have considered getting one, but the MiniDisc works so great, and 
> was
> > so much cheaper, that we'll probably just stick with it. You can 
> pick
> > up a great MiniDisc for <$100 that will do everything you need.
> 
> Jay,
> 
> Just to edify us completely, what model mindisc recorder do you use? 
> Can you give us a list of options so that the archives will have 
> something next time someone asks?
> 
> Ed

Re: Dtxpress download to minidisc?

2003-12-05 by gt090170

Guys,
Many thanks for the quick & thoughtful replies. Much food for 
thought. Have checked out various sites for best minidisc price; 
Amazon.co.uk seems to do the best deal for the Sony MZ-N710 at
£118.
I'll probably try to record band practice with mic direct from 
minidisc first, if no good, will try via mixer/Fostex route.

One more question! - anyone know whether dtxpress will dump straight 
to minidisc or will data have to go to PC first & then to minidisc?

Thanks,
GT.




--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Jay" <jayluv6@y...> wrote:
> Sure thing:
> 
> I use the Sony MZ-N505 Personal MiniDisc Player. It is a little hard
> to find (I've had mine over a year now), but you can get some good
> info on epinions.com about it:
> 
http://www.epinions.com/Sony_MZ_N505_MiniDisc_Recorder__finish_Silver_
__Portable_MiniDisc_Player_MZN505_S
> 
> As for options, there isn't a whole lot. It's very simple to use. 
But
> I do make some settings adjustments:
> 
> 1) Set the record level to "manual" and adjust it to the highest 
level
> possible. 
> 
> 2) Set the encoding to use the MDLP (Minidisc "Long Play") speed of
> LP2. This way you can get up to 160 minutes of CD quality stereo.
> 
> 
> And my mixer is some low quality knockoff that I picked up at guitar
> center for about $50. It is definitely nothing special. 8 channels
> with 4 XLR preamps. I run stereo cables from the mixer directly into
> the MiniDisc.
> 
> Once my DXTPRESSII arrives (only 4 more weeks!) I will happily
> describe how it is setup. Right now I use 3 mics for my Pearl kit: 1
> on the kick, 1 for the snare/hi hat, and 1 overhead for toms and 
ride.
> The 3 mics take up the first 3 channels of the mixer, and we mic the
> guitar cab on the 4th XLR and run direct in from the bass amp and 
vox.
> 
> Believe it or not, this setup records great. If you wanna see an
> action shot, go here: 
http://digichapman.com/gallery/Bandhole/IMG_0185
> 
> You can see the 2 mics, barely.
> 
> 
> Let me know if you would like anything else Ed.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Jay" <jayluv6@y...> wrote:
> > > GT, as you can see in my last post that I use a MiniDisc to 
record 
> > all
> > > of my bands' practices. It works great if you have a mixer to 
run 
> > all
> > > of your live mics into before going to the MiniDisc. Some 
MiniDiscs 
> > do
> > > have a pre-amp mic input in them, where theoretically all you 
would
> > > have to do is setup a stereo mic in the room to record your 
band. I
> > > wouldn't count on a decent recording that way though.
> > > 
> > > And there are MP3 players out there that allow you to record 
to. We
> > > have considered getting one, but the MiniDisc works so great, 
and 
> > was
> > > so much cheaper, that we'll probably just stick with it. You 
can 
> > pick
> > > up a great MiniDisc for <$100 that will do everything you need.
> > 
> > Jay,
> > 
> > Just to edify us completely, what model mindisc recorder do you 
use? 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > Can you give us a list of options so that the archives will have 
> > something next time someone asks?
> > 
> > Ed

Re: Dtxpress download to minidisc?

2003-12-07 by Nick Carroll

This probably doesn't answer your question. But I use Minidisc to 
record every band practice. We put all instruments and voices 
through the PA, and I connect my portable Minidisc to the PA line 
out. It works a treat. We have even created a live demo CD (via 
computer) this way.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "gt090170" <gt090170@y...> wrote:
> Guys,
> Many thanks for the quick & thoughtful replies. Much food for 
> thought. Have checked out various sites for best minidisc price; 
> Amazon.co.uk seems to do the best deal for the Sony MZ-N710 at
> £118.
> I'll probably try to record band practice with mic direct from 
> minidisc first, if no good, will try via mixer/Fostex route.
> 
> One more question! - anyone know whether dtxpress will dump 
straight 
> to minidisc or will data have to go to PC first & then to minidisc?
> 
> Thanks,
> GT.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Jay" <jayluv6@y...> wrote:
> > Sure thing:
> > 
> > I use the Sony MZ-N505 Personal MiniDisc Player. It is a little 
hard
> > to find (I've had mine over a year now), but you can get some 
good
> > info on epinions.com about it:
> > 
> 
http://www.epinions.com/Sony_MZ_N505_MiniDisc_Recorder__finish_Silver
_
> __Portable_MiniDisc_Player_MZN505_S
> > 
> > As for options, there isn't a whole lot. It's very simple to 
use. 
> But
> > I do make some settings adjustments:
> > 
> > 1) Set the record level to "manual" and adjust it to the highest 
> level
> > possible. 
> > 
> > 2) Set the encoding to use the MDLP (Minidisc "Long Play") speed 
of
> > LP2. This way you can get up to 160 minutes of CD quality stereo.
> > 
> > 
> > And my mixer is some low quality knockoff that I picked up at 
guitar
> > center for about $50. It is definitely nothing special. 8 
channels
> > with 4 XLR preamps. I run stereo cables from the mixer directly 
into
> > the MiniDisc.
> > 
> > Once my DXTPRESSII arrives (only 4 more weeks!) I will happily
> > describe how it is setup. Right now I use 3 mics for my Pearl 
kit: 1
> > on the kick, 1 for the snare/hi hat, and 1 overhead for toms and 
> ride.
> > The 3 mics take up the first 3 channels of the mixer, and we mic 
the
> > guitar cab on the 4th XLR and run direct in from the bass amp 
and 
> vox.
> > 
> > Believe it or not, this setup records great. If you wanna see an
> > action shot, go here: 
> http://digichapman.com/gallery/Bandhole/IMG_0185
> > 
> > You can see the 2 mics, barely.
> > 
> > 
> > Let me know if you would like anything else Ed.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> 
wrote:
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Jay" <jayluv6@y...> wrote:
> > > > GT, as you can see in my last post that I use a MiniDisc to 
> record 
> > > all
> > > > of my bands' practices. It works great if you have a mixer 
to 
> run 
> > > all
> > > > of your live mics into before going to the MiniDisc. Some 
> MiniDiscs 
> > > do
> > > > have a pre-amp mic input in them, where theoretically all 
you 
> would
> > > > have to do is setup a stereo mic in the room to record your 
> band. I
> > > > wouldn't count on a decent recording that way though.
> > > > 
> > > > And there are MP3 players out there that allow you to record 
> to. We
> > > > have considered getting one, but the MiniDisc works so 
great, 
> and 
> > > was
> > > > so much cheaper, that we'll probably just stick with it. You 
> can 
> > > pick
> > > > up a great MiniDisc for <$100 that will do everything you 
need.
> > > 
> > > Jay,
> > > 
> > > Just to edify us completely, what model mindisc recorder do 
you 
> use? 
> > > Can you give us a list of options so that the archives will 
have 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > > something next time someone asks?
> > > 
> > > Ed

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