Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

The PCY65S pad has a rim switch that can be configured to give a choke
effect. This does work on trigger input 7 (Crash 1). Would I be able
to run a second PCY65S with the same choke feature on one of the other
trigger inputs? How would I have to adjust the (trigger/voice)
parameter settings then?

Regards     -Bongo-

Yes, you can run a second PCY65S into the ride input, as it is the 
same type of input as the crash input. Input 9 of 9/10 also has a 
ride sound configured to it, so you can hook your ride up into input 
9/10. This is exactly what I am doing soon.

-Zack

Zack,

as far as I understood the Ride input (#6) is a stereo input and
therefore should be able to manage the PCY65S signal. The question was
how to do the settings in order to achieve the choke effect.

-Bongo- 




--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "supernovanexus"
<supernovanexus@y...> wrote:

> Yes, you can run a second PCY65S into the ride input, as it is the 
> same type of input as the crash input. Input 9 of 9/10 also has a 
> ride sound configured to it, so you can hook your ride up into input 
> 9/10. This is exactly what I am doing soon.
> 
> -Zack

--- bongokonzelmann wrote:
> as far as I understood the Ride input (#6) is a stereo
> input and therefore should be able to manage the PCY65S
> signal. The question was how to do the settings in order
> to achieve the choke effect.

All you have to do is set the pad type to something suitable (pCY65, 
PCY80). You will get the choke automatically.

By the way, input #2 is also chokeable.

Stewart

--- supernovanexus wrote:
> ...you can run a second PCY65S into the ride input,
> as it is the same type of input as the crash input.
> Input 9 of 9/10 also has a ride sound configured to
> it, so you can hook your ride up into input 
> 9/10. This is exactly what I am doing soon.

Can I just clear something up, because your note suggests you may 
have a slight misunderstanding (apologies in advance if I read 
something into your note that isn't there).

You can pretty much plug any pad into any input from 1 through 10 on 
the DTXpress. They all work the same way. The only reason (and it's 
not a bad one) for choosing the inputs as marked/shipped is so that 
the pre-set kits make sense and so that you have cymbals on the 
inputs that can be choked. Those are the only "compatibility" issues 
that exist. Electrically, they are all nearly identical - 1 through 
8 stereo (including the kick) and 9/10 twin mono. You don't actually 
have to choose an input that Yamaha says is for that kind of pad, 
nor one that they ship with a specific sound on it.

Stewart

I changed the pad type and tried it out with trigger inputs #2 and #6.
Works fine. Thanks for that.

However here´s another one for you: I just configured a new kit. The
tom sounds are all the same source (T/008) and only differ by their
tune. To be quick with the settings I used the "copy to" feature in
the Voice Edit section. Having done that it now isn´t possible anymore
to change some of the parameters of the "replicated" pads (e.g. the
tune). A message shows up saying "# in use". Is there any possibility
to revise that?

Regards      -Bongo-



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...>
wrote:

> --- bongokonzelmann wrote:
> > as far as I understood the Ride input (#6) is a stereo
> > input and therefore should be able to manage the PCY65S
> > signal. The question was how to do the settings in order
> > to achieve the choke effect.
> 
> All you have to do is set the pad type to something suitable (pCY65, 
> PCY80). You will get the choke automatically.
> 
> By the way, input #2 is also chokeable.
> 
> Stewart

Oh my fault Bongo. Set the module to see the cymbal as a 
PCY65S...either 1 or 2, not sure, its probably been stated already in 
a previous post. That will tell the module that there is a switch on 
the cymbal for choke capabilities.

-Zack

Change the Midi note #, for each trigger to operate seperately, should have 
a unique midi note number.


>From: "bongokonzelmann" <carsten@...>
>Reply-To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [DTXpress] Re: PCY65S - choke effect
>Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:45:40 -0000
>
>I changed the pad type and tried it out with trigger inputs #2 and #6.
>Works fine. Thanks for that.
>
>However here\ufffds another one for you: I just configured a new kit. The
>tom sounds are all the same source (T/008) and only differ by their
>tune. To be quick with the settings I used the "copy to" feature in
>the Voice Edit section. Having done that it now isn\ufffdt possible anymore
>to change some of the parameters of the "replicated" pads (e.g. the
>tune). A message shows up saying "# in use". Is there any possibility
>to revise that?
>
>Regards      -Bongo-
>
>
>
>--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...>
>wrote:
> > --- bongokonzelmann wrote:
> > > as far as I understood the Ride input (#6) is a stereo
> > > input and therefore should be able to manage the PCY65S
> > > signal. The question was how to do the settings in order
> > > to achieve the choke effect.
> >
> > All you have to do is set the pad type to something suitable (pCY65,
> > PCY80). You will get the choke automatically.
> >
> > By the way, input #2 is also chokeable.
> >
> > Stewart
>

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... help a dummie, or just to accelerate the exercise: Where can I
change the mide note number (Trigger Edit Section I presume) and are
there any restrictions what mide note number to take?

Reggards     -Bongo-



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Abdulmalek Hamsho" <aa_mm_hh@h...>
wrote:
> Change the Midi note #, for each trigger to operate seperately,
should have 

> a unique midi note number.
> 
> 
> >From: "bongokonzelmann" <carsten@h...>
> >Reply-To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> >To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [DTXpress] Re: PCY65S - choke effect
> >Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:45:40 -0000
> >
> >I changed the pad type and tried it out with trigger inputs #2 and #6.
> >Works fine. Thanks for that.
> >
> >However here´s another one for you: I just configured a new kit. The
> >tom sounds are all the same source (T/008) and only differ by their
> >tune. To be quick with the settings I used the "copy to" feature in
> >the Voice Edit section. Having done that it now isn´t possible anymore
> >to change some of the parameters of the "replicated" pads (e.g. the
> >tune). A message shows up saying "# in use". Is there any possibility
> >to revise that?
> >
> >Regards      -Bongo-
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...>
> >wrote:
> > > --- bongokonzelmann wrote:
> > > > as far as I understood the Ride input (#6) is a stereo
> > > > input and therefore should be able to manage the PCY65S
> > > > signal. The question was how to do the settings in order
> > > > to achieve the choke effect.
> > >
> > > All you have to do is set the pad type to something suitable (pCY65,
> > > PCY80). You will get the choke automatically.
> > >
> > > By the way, input #2 is also chokeable.
> > >
> > > Stewart
> >
> 
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Change it from Voice section (Press on Voice button), and go to Note #. I 
don't think there would be any restriction for this number.


>From: "bongokonzelmann" <carsten@...>
>Reply-To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [DTXpress] Re: PCY65S - choke effect
>Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:54:57 -0000
>
>... help a dummie, or just to accelerate the exercise: Where can I
>change the mide note number (Trigger Edit Section I presume) and are
>there any restrictions what mide note number to take?
>
>Reggards     -Bongo-
>
>
>
>--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Abdulmalek Hamsho" <aa_mm_hh@h...>
>wrote:
> > Change the Midi note #, for each trigger to operate seperately,
>should have
> > a unique midi note number.
> >
> >
> > >From: "bongokonzelmann" <carsten@h...>
> > >Reply-To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [DTXpress] Re: PCY65S - choke effect
> > >Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:45:40 -0000
> > >
> > >I changed the pad type and tried it out with trigger inputs #2 and #6.
> > >Works fine. Thanks for that.
> > >
> > >However here\ufffds another one for you: I just configured a new kit. The
> > >tom sounds are all the same source (T/008) and only differ by their
> > >tune. To be quick with the settings I used the "copy to" feature in
> > >the Voice Edit section. Having done that it now isn\ufffdt possible anymore
> > >to change some of the parameters of the "replicated" pads (e.g. the
> > >tune). A message shows up saying "# in use". Is there any possibility
> > >to revise that?
> > >
> > >Regards      -Bongo-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...>
> > >wrote:
> > > > --- bongokonzelmann wrote:
> > > > > as far as I understood the Ride input (#6) is a stereo
> > > > > input and therefore should be able to manage the PCY65S
> > > > > signal. The question was how to do the settings in order
> > > > > to achieve the choke effect.
> > > >
> > > > All you have to do is set the pad type to something suitable (pCY65,
> > > > PCY80). You will get the choke automatically.
> > > >
> > > > By the way, input #2 is also chokeable.
> > > >
> > > > Stewart
> > >
> >
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Perfect, that was it.

I just had a look into the midi note assignments of some of the preset
kits. There doesn´t seem to exist any rule. For instance tom 1/2/3
pads are not assigned to numbers following each other in ascending order.

-Bongo-

 

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Abdulmalek Hamsho" <aa_mm_hh@h...>
wrote:
> Change it from Voice section (Press on Voice button), and go to Note
#. I 
> don't think there would be any restriction for this number.
> 
> 
> >From: "bongokonzelmann" <carsten@h...>
> >Reply-To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> >To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [DTXpress] Re: PCY65S - choke effect
> >Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:54:57 -0000
> >
> >... help a dummie, or just to accelerate the exercise: Where can I
> >change the mide note number (Trigger Edit Section I presume) and are
> >there any restrictions what mide note number to take?
> >
> >Reggards     -Bongo-
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Abdulmalek Hamsho" <aa_mm_hh@h...>
> >wrote:
> > > Change the Midi note #, for each trigger to operate seperately,
> >should have
> > > a unique midi note number.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "bongokonzelmann" <carsten@h...>
> > > >Reply-To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: [DTXpress] Re: PCY65S - choke effect
> > > >Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:45:40 -0000
> > > >
> > > >I changed the pad type and tried it out with trigger inputs #2
and #6.
> > > >Works fine. Thanks for that.
> > > >
> > > >However here´s another one for you: I just configured a new
kit. The
> > > >tom sounds are all the same source (T/008) and only differ by their
> > > >tune. To be quick with the settings I used the "copy to" feature in
> > > >the Voice Edit section. Having done that it now isn´t possible
anymore
> > > >to change some of the parameters of the "replicated" pads (e.g. the
> > > >tune). A message shows up saying "# in use". Is there any
possibility
> > > >to revise that?
> > > >
> > > >Regards      -Bongo-
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication"
<moosetication@y...>
> > > >wrote:
> > > > > --- bongokonzelmann wrote:
> > > > > > as far as I understood the Ride input (#6) is a stereo
> > > > > > input and therefore should be able to manage the PCY65S
> > > > > > signal. The question was how to do the settings in order
> > > > > > to achieve the choke effect.
> > > > >
> > > > > All you have to do is set the pad type to something suitable
(pCY65,

> > > > > PCY80). You will get the choke automatically.
> > > > >
> > > > > By the way, input #2 is also chokeable.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stewart
> > > >
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________________
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On the Dtxpress I module inputs 1 through 8 could provide choking 
with a stereo cymbal pad.

On the Dtxpress II module inputs 2, 6 and 7 are the only ones capable 
of providing choking for the stereo cymbal pads. 

On the Dtxpress II module with the update ROM chip inputs 1 through 8 
could be choking for the stereo cymbal pads.

On the Dtxpress III module all inputs 1 through 8 are chokable with 
stereo cymbal pads, except if pad type RHH130 is assigned to input 8, 
then choking is disabled.

OGD