Korg DW8000, Mono/Poly, MS-20...

(sorry if this winds up being a double post. I got a failure notice 
from Yahoo, so I'm trying again)

I came across an interesting site recently that has ROM images of the
DW6000's 8 waveforms:

http://erikhall.mine.nu/~ronny/dw6000/dw6000.htm

I have no idea what language the site is written in. Babblefish was 
of
no help.

Tantalizingly, only half of the DW8000's waveforms are there.

I collect single cycle waveforms from old synths, (I know, but
everyone's gotta have a hobby), and I was wondering if anyone knew
where I could find the ROM images of the DW8000's 16 waveforms.

What's cool is to take these old waveforms and put them into a modern
sampler. Then create your own patches using the sampler's synth
architecture.

Thanks for any help.

It´s in swedish...
Mail me if you need translation =)

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "Les" <passionjam@...> wrote:

>
> (sorry if this winds up being a double post. I got a failure notice 
> from Yahoo, so I'm trying again)
> 
> I came across an interesting site recently that has ROM images of the
> DW6000's 8 waveforms:
> 
> http://erikhall.mine.nu/~ronny/dw6000/dw6000.htm
> 
> I have no idea what language the site is written in. Babblefish was 
> of
> no help.
> 
> Tantalizingly, only half of the DW8000's waveforms are there.
> 
> I collect single cycle waveforms from old synths, (I know, but
> everyone's gotta have a hobby), and I was wondering if anyone knew
> where I could find the ROM images of the DW8000's 16 waveforms.
> 
> What's cool is to take these old waveforms and put them into a modern
> sampler. Then create your own patches using the sampler's synth
> architecture.
> 
> Thanks for any help.
>

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "nakensnygg" <nakensnygg@...> wrote:
>
> It´s in swedish...

Thank you! I had no idea.

> Mail me if you need translation =)

I really appreciate the offer. :-)

Fortunately, though, I found an online translator:

http://www.translationsoftware4u.com/translatefree.htm

Using it to translate the page, my impression is that it describes 
replacing the 8 waveforms in the DW6000 with 8 waveforms from the 
DW8000. That would explain why there's only 8 of the DW8000's 
waveforms up on the site.

Shame. Would love to have all 16.

BTW, while we're on the subject of modifying the DW6000, here's 
another page I came across:

http://www.strellis.com/dw6000.shtml

It describes modifying the DW6000 so that it contains 256 waveforms. 
Wow!

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "Les" <passionjam@...> wrote:

> I collect single cycle waveforms from old synths, (I know, but
> everyone's gotta have a hobby), and I was wondering if anyone knew
> where I could find the ROM images of the DW8000's 16 waveforms.
> 
> What's cool is to take these old waveforms and put them into a modern
> sampler. Then create your own patches using the sampler's synth
> architecture.

Personally, I find the DW waveforms to be nothing that special,
compared to what's available in tons of free softsynths out there (and
it would be easier to 'grab' the waveforms from software than from a
hardware synth).

What I find more interesting is the DW's analog filter, which I would
love to run a freestanding VCO module through, if only the DW had an
analog input.

However, I do love taking samples of Prophet 5, OBX, Jupiter 8
oscillators and running them through my Korg DSS-1 (which is a
souped-up DW8000 with sampling). 

In fact, you can probably get your hands on the rest of the DW8000
waveforms by checking out the disk library of the DSS-1, as most or
all of these waveforms were ported over to that synth, along with
larger samples.

"Glen Stegner" wrote:
>
> Personally, I find the DW waveforms to be nothing that special,
> compared to what's available in tons of free softsynths out there 
> (and it would be easier to 'grab' the waveforms from software than 
> from a hardware synth).

We've come a long way since the early 80s, it's true. However, I 
still have a fondness for those old waveforms, not just the ones in 
the DW series but also the Prophet VS and Kawai K3. 
 
> What I find more interesting is the DW's analog filter, which I 
> would love to run a freestanding VCO module through, if only the 
> DW had an analog input.
> 
> However, I do love taking samples of Prophet 5, OBX, Jupiter 8
> oscillators and running them through my Korg DSS-1 (which is a
> souped-up DW8000 with sampling). 

I used to own a DSS-1 years and years ago. One of my regrets is 
selling it. I didn't really know what I had on my hands. What a neat 
synth.
 
> In fact, you can probably get your hands on the rest of the DW8000
> waveforms by checking out the disk library of the DSS-1, as most or
> all of these waveforms were ported over to that synth, along with
> larger samples.

This is a good suggestion. I've found some DSS-1 disk images. I can 
examine their contents. However, parsing the waveform data from them 
is another matter...

> BTW, while we're on the subject of modifying the DW6000, here's 
> another page I came across:
> 
> http://www.strellis.com/dw6000.shtml
> 
> It describes modifying the DW6000 so that it contains 256 waveforms. 
> Wow!

He he - thanks for plugging my site :)

I've just noticed that I made a mistake with the audio demos on the
page.  If you would like to visit the page again, you can download the
mp3 demos.

The videos were fine though (except for my hammy performance!)

It was an interesting mod to do but taught me that the waveforms only
form a part of the sound.  It's the filter and how it dynamically
affects the waveform that produces the greatest contribution to a sound.

However, with the right wavetable you can simulate a filter sweep ;)

I really need the schematics for a DW6000 or 8000 so I can try and get
the waves to sweep per voice and not globally i.e affects all voices
simultaneously.

Thanks

Chris

"Chris Strellis" wrote:
>
> 
> > BTW, while we're on the subject of modifying the DW6000, here's 
> > another page I came across:
> > 
> > http://www.strellis.com/dw6000.shtml
> > 
> > It describes modifying the DW6000 so that it contains 256 
> > waveforms. 
> > Wow!
> 
> He he - thanks for plugging my site :)
> 
> I've just noticed that I made a mistake with the audio demos on the
> page.  If you would like to visit the page again, you can download 
> the mp3 demos.

Hey, thanks! I dropped back by and had a listen. Nice!
 
> The videos were fine though (except for my hammy performance!)

I enjoyed those my first time by. "Don't touch, kids." :-)
 
> It was an interesting mod to do but taught me that the waveforms 
> only form a part of the sound.  It's the filter and how it 
> dynamically affects the waveform that produces the greatest 
> contribution to a sound.

I agree. I learned this back when I had a Korg DSS-1. I would use 
the waveform drawing function and wonder why I wasn't noticing that 
much difference in the patch between each waveform. Well, it's 
because the filter was the main, as you say, contributor.

> However, with the right wavetable you can simulate a filter 
> sweep ;)

I've heard this with some of the Waldorf synths. Pretty cool.
 
> I really need the schematics for a DW6000 or 8000 so I can try and 
> get the waves to sweep per voice and not globally i.e affects all 
> voices simultaneously.

Hey, if you ever need bandlimited versions of your waveforms, let me 
know. I've written software for doing that type of thing. My 
approach is to analyze the waveforms to get their harmonic spectrum. 
Then create bandlimited versions, one per octave. 

At any rate, thanks for a very cool site and demonstration!