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NO More about the Ukranian Spammer
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On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:47 PM, John K Stacy <John_K_Stacy@...>wrote:

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> So far, posts ABOUT the spammers are running 10 to one over ACTUAL posts
> from the spammers....seems like they are having US do their work for
> them...pretty slick...
>
> John
>
> From: andre1moreau
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 3:55 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: More about the Ukranian Spammer
>
> Hello Paul,
> Welcome back. Hope you had a nice time up there in the mountains.
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Paul" <roark.paul@...> wrote:
> >
> > Could these notices be related Yahoo's attempts to save its business and
> our groups here?
> >
> I do not have this information and can not tell at this time. All I've seen
> so far is that Yahoo seems to let the responsibility of fighting spam up to
> the group/list owner/moderator. However, it seems that they are now looking
> at letting list members become owner/moderator of orphaned groups, but no
> decision have been announced yet. Orphaned groups are the ones hit the
> hardest by spam messages.
>
> > Or have they made changes that opened the door too much, probably as a
> side effect to some change in their systems?
> >
> Can't tell. But Yahoo groups are the target of organized gangs, mostly
> under the guise of "Canadian Pharmacy" where a link in a post point to it.
> We haven't seen any porn spam yet on this group but it may come. I've listed
> a few links about these gangs in this tread.
>
> These gangs operate "Zombie Networks" where personals computers infected by
> viruses are linked together in a network, operating unknown to their owner
> for the benefice of spams gangs. Some Zombie Networks may have several
> thousand of personal computers linked together. One botnet operation
> controlled 1.5 million personal computers.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_computer
> >
> > What is causing the people to leave the groups?
> >
> Having too many annoying spam messages polluting the group messages. On
> this group some may object, and rightly so about OT subject. What is more OT
> than spam? And having a steady stream of it becomes too much.
>
> > Does the spam directly damage systems, or is an un-suspecting reaction of
> the recipient, such as giving out personal information to a stranger, the
> threat?
> >
> There is no danger, afaik, opening a spam message in a Yahoo group. Beyond
> that, clicking a spam link inside the message may lead phishing operations
> that are waiting for people to provide personal info including credit card
> numbers. Maybe even viruses if one is not carefull.
> > I'm wondering if, aside from Yahoo's interests and actions, our members
> with expertise could identify simply actions group members can do to avoid
> damage from spam and feel secure using these forums.
> >
> I don't think there's any danger using any Yahoo list/group and I feel
> secure reading posts on this group. The danger lies beyond the spam
> messsages, where gang members are waiting in ambush to perpetrate identy
> theft.
>
> The only real effective means of fighting spam on any Yahoo group is to
> monitor each and every messages before they are posted. Do so at this time
> mey be more cumbersome that the spam itself. But, that will depends on how
> many spam message this group will be seeing in the future.
>
> Personally, I've installed a proven antivirus and firewall (Avira & Comodo)
> and both are free for personal use. And I have the habit of changing my
> passwords one or twice per year. Also, I delete without reading any email
> messages that resemble spam. Beyond that, I don't think there's much I can
> do.
> >
> Cheers,
> Andre
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