Digital BW, The Print

Mark,

Martin pretty much covered it, but I want to add that, like his,  my yahoo email 
has gotten next to no spam in a year or so of use on lists , while my pacbell 
email is just full of it, though kept away from Yahoo.  
At this point I am far more frustrated with the sleaze that runs pacbell than 
Yahoo, believe it or not.  I pay pacbell for the service and they do nothing to 
stop big-time spam. Of all providers, they are easily the ones to avoid. 

All this is to say, perhaps you can find relief by setting up an email with yahoo 
that you use exclusively on these lists and see what happens. And never sign 
in with your main address. I think spam depends mainly on trading on line and 
on your particular ISP.

This still doesn't solve the ad situation with Yahoo, nor their creepy policy of 
hiding from any attempt to contact them about it. I can only conclude that this 
is a whole new "world order" in which a new web-based culture and logic has 
sprung and caught us off guard. We could have never had the community we 
established here if Yahoo wasn't easily available and free. Now we find out 
the real costs.

As a long time Compuserve member I have watched their ranks diminish 
because there you have to pay to play. People may not have appreciated the 
absence of ads or the nice threading software. When all this list-mania 
errupted, nobody thought what an invasive, ugly thing advertising would 
become in the hands of invisible sleazoids  that would come to make a buck 
out of our need to communicate on line. Live and learn. 

For the moment, I am afraid we would disrupt what we have going too much if 
we made a move. But I will definitely keep my eyes open for ways out. And 
thanks to Tom and others who researched this so diligently. 

Antonis





--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "marktuckerdotcom" <mark@m...> 
wrote:
> Martin and Antonis,
> 
> What a nice group of people we have assembled here in this 
> group, sharing valuable information that we all seem to be 
> learning from. Also, what a shame it's going to be to see 
> valuable people depart the group due to noticeably increased 
> amount of SPAM appearing in mailboxes, and increasingly 
> annoying Yahoo ad practices.