Digital BW, The Print

That of course is an entirely speculative comment of yours and you will have
to wait and see will you not?

It takes no imagination at all to realise that non of the big camera boys
i.e. those who make and sell complete camera systems, wish to see an open
system because in that way they will in effect lose the one certainty that
exists in their rather narrow and highly predjudiced view of the
photographiuc world, which in simple language spells brand market
domination - or the wish to achieve such a condition.

In truth the current situation re the camera manufacturers rather reminds me
of the same situation that existed in the electronic pre-press industry
somtime between the years 1968-1990+ where more or less three manufacturers
dominated the supply market for electronic scanning and image manipulation.

By sticking to propriortorial systems and using their own file formats they
ensured that once a client had 'hooked in' to their product, client loyalty
was almost guaranteed.

History has demonstrated that, that approach cannot exist for ever because
eventually other organisations - usually small, flexiable, and cheap get
into what in effect became a closed market sector dominated by just a few
brands and blew the whole industry structure apart.

That mon petites is what I am hoping to see happen to the camera producers
market before I shuffle off this mortal coil.
The idea that one might obtain a particular Nikon or Canon or any other body
(digital natch) and be able to use any manufacturers lens with same should
be the required norm rather than a dream.

I say watch this space - well some space or other - and await events.


----- Original Message -----
From: <Pics4U@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: New 6+mp Nikon D100


> Maybe, just maybe, there is a good reason none of the big name
> companies chose Foveon.  None of us have actually seen a Foveon
> based camera or any images taken with it beyond what's on their
> website.
>
> So far it's all been media and marketing hype.  Any chance this
> current model isn't really all they want us to believe it is? Any
> chance they weren't able to deliver the quanitities the big boys would
> require?  Any chance the wholesale price they demanded was too
> far out of line to make it a workable venture?  Any chance Nikon is
> already working with similar technology?
>
> I have enough confidence in both Canon and Nikon to know there
> must be SOME reason why.  I highly doubt that Sigma was the first
> company on their list when Foveon set out to sell their technology.
> My guess is that both Canon and Nikon and probably Kodak and
> Olympus too, all turned them down before Sigma ever got a chance
> to even see it.
>
> These people are obviously not stupid. Don't you think they would
> have been VERY eager for either Canon or Nikon to jump on their
> new bandwagon instead of Sigma?
>
> I also wouldn't be suprised to hear that either Canon or Nikon or
> Kodak were already working on their own versions of a Foveon. I
> have personally talked to the engineers of another company that has
> been working heavily on Cmos imaging technology for a number of
> years.
>
> BTW:  For those that think other brand glass will fit on the Sigma
> body? Take a look at their website. It's pretty clear that ONLY their
> lenses will work.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> > >  I think Foveon blew it by
> > > letting Sigma be the first with their technology.  Who is going out
> > > and buying into the Sigma system?  Sure, the lenses are fine, but
> > > you need to use the truly crappy Sigma body.
> >
> > Maybe Nikon is the one that blew it. Who is going to go out and spend
> > thousands of dollars when we all know some good camera company is
> > going to come out with the foveon soon? I wish it was Nikon, since all
> > my 35 is already nikon. But as has been pointed out, a totally new
> > system, designed completely for digital, and at this point ,foveon
> > digital , has to be developed. New lenses, bodies , everything. And
> > you are right , it yhas to be from a top camera company. I didn't know
> > the sigma was so krappy, thanks for that info. Guess I'll have to wait
> > and see what develops.What I have now will last until a professional
> > foveon comes out. George J Kunze
> >
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