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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Expectation vs. Reality

2011-06-18 by EJ Neilsen

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of E.Neilsen
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:20 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Expectation vs. Reality

 

  

For anyone processing RAW files ( everyone, or nearly everyone) I think it
really makes sense to try the various processor with your specific files
too. Nikon, Canon, Adobe each have their plus, minuses, and work better on
certain file types. When get too carried away with broad workflow solutions
sometimes and forget to examine the process for where it is doing what. Some
of us spent many years getting it just right with that other medium of film
and now we have a whole new way of making images on paper. It's going to
take some time. 

Eric Neilsen
Eric Neilsen Photography
4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
Dallas, TX 75226

www.ericneilsenphotography.com
skype me with ejprinter
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Let's Talk Photography

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Daniel
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Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Expectation vs. Reality


This has been a very helpful thread to me. Thank you to all who contributed.
Here is my takeaway. The larger the print, the more technical details become
important. As I stated, I was printing out some of my favorite photos on
ANSI C (17" x 22"). Of course my favorite of the bunch was shot about 5
years ago with an older camera. I notice the ISO was set at 800. That didn't
help matters. The shutter speed and f stop were OK, but the photo was taken
with a zoom lens. With the luxury to shoot again I'd choose a prime. The
native resolution of the photo printed at that size (20.86" x 12.89") was
only 161ppi. A higher resolution camera, or stitching the photo together
with multiple shots, would have been better. As to the processing, I use
Lightroom 3.4. Listening to Jeff Schewe, who had a hand in the development
of that program, I was told LR 3.4 is a 'non-linear' editor, so the noise
processing step is not like it would be in Photoshop, a linear editor.
According to Schewe, it is important to do noise reduction early on in PS,
but it doesn't make much difference in LR (yell at him, please don't yell at
me).

I now know it is possible to print at ANSI C and even larger with an APS-C
sensor or with properly scanned film, but the overall resolution is
important and so is technique; I know now to 'have my act together' before
printing at that size. But it can be done.

Personally, I have decided to print the photo in question at no larger than
14"x17" and preferably smaller. In the future, knowing what I want quality
wise, I will be paying much more attention to native printed resolution and
include that in my size choice.

If somebody thinks I still have this wrong, or feels I am overlooking
something, please say so.

Dan

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