Digital BW, The Print

I had forgotten about Noiseware, years since I tried the demo. Sounds great and would avoid some of the luminance soft masking I've done before with grain control. Those kinds of controls are great for addressing grain. Most noise filters are probably optimized for working on digital noise, so working on the look of film grain in a scan may require some finessing with good control and a careful user, rather than "auto" settings and profiling.
I'll take another look at Noiseware, and yes the interface with NI is a bit odd, and it can be quite slow...
Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "EJ Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
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> Tyler, Noiseware gives users a control over shadow, midrange and highlight
> and the high, mid and low frequency.  NI and NW are both quite good.
> Interface on either takes a bit of time to learn.  
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> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tboleyyh
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 3:58 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Grain/aliasing, CoolScan 5000 and VueScan
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> no way to do it in other scanners... it's the nature of the drum scanner to
> have an aperture, fixed or variable.
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> I prefer Neat image if a noise filter is required, having separate control
> over three different frequency ranges allows very fine tuned and natural
> looking results. I have Noise Ninja as well and it is good, but for fine
> tuning grain reduction from scans the extra control in Neat Image works best
> for me.
> Tyler
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> , "lgrrrb@"
> <lgrrrb@> wrote:
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> > Another approach to controlling the appearance of film grain is using
> hardware. Enlarging the scanner aperture slightly reduces grain and has
> little effect on image detail. Many drum scanners can do this but I don't
> know about other scanners.
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> > Randall R Bresee
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> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> , "pdesmidt tds.net"
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> > > Whether noise reduction will be useful depends a lot on the size of the
> > > problem and how you want the grain, if any, to appear in the image. With
> > > very grainy film, film that'd have a very visible grain pattern in an
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> > > print from 35mm, I found that the Nikon scanner lost detail because of
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> > > exacerbation of grain compared to my Canon 9950F consumer flatbed.
> > > Software noise reduction could get rid of the grain (and a bunch of
> detail),
> > > but for those images grain was an important part of the final look.
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> > > to minimize grain of Nikon scan, i.e. making it less noticeable but not
> > > gone, led to a nasty smearing of the grain. In these cases, my Canon
> flatbed
> > > gave significantly better results than that Nikon film scanner. I was
> going
> > > to investigate wet-mounting and using diffusion with my Nikon, but I
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> > > up getting a Screen Cezanne, and so I sold my Nikon.
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