Digital BW, The Print

Eric
Probably very good advice.. 
I think we are reaching a threshold where our level of expectations and an understanding of what's possible might be getting blurry.. The betterlight scan back was offered for a period with a 10k linear.. It ended up falling off the shelf as lenses were not available to truly make use of it.. Kodak discontinued it..
A lot of this is, in my opinion, is a marketing race..I honestly feel that in this technology race their is a lot of psychology involved. 
Constructively, I do feel that most of Nikon's lens line up won't deliver the potential of a 36 MP sensor.. I suspect we'll all do a bit of growing up by the time the dust settles on this one.. 
I will confess to having one on order but my intent is to use it in the studio to pay it's freight.. If I get anything else out of it ...well that'll be a bonus..
Also .. for the first time I have heard ( from good sources)  that the D700 is next on the list.. It would make sense that it has the new D4 chip.. 16mp.. I think that would be a great an dpossibly better choice for many shooters..

jimbo

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: E.Neilsen 
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  Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 9:15 AM
  Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: The megapixel issue - "again" and other issues


    
  Maybe these newer bigger MP cameras will be a standard rental item. And
  perhaps, while you own the slightly less robust version in the same camera
  line. 

  Eric Neilsen
  Eric Neilsen Photography
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  Dallas, TX 75226

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  From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mrjimbo
  Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 9:27 AM
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  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: The megapixel issue - "again" and other issues


  Good points CD..
  What is good about this thread is that everybody has their thinking cap on..
  and many seem a bit nervous about a jump of this size..
  So a few thoughts of my own..

  Getting a camera with 36 MP doesn't make sense if you don't use it ALL. 
  If this had a smaller sensor I wouldn't touch this camera with a 10 foot
  pole.. I'm honestly nervous about the ability of a lens to resolve this
  level of information..
  I have used medium format cameras with this level of capture ..but their
  typically not CMOS sensors.. and a much larger sensor..
  I have a feeling that 36MP will put new meaning to the sweet spot in a lens.
  I just noticed it does in camera HDR ..I thought that was interesting.
  The way I use the shutter ...new meaning to file storage will have to be a
  real focus..
  Sitting back.... I really don't need that level of capture for much of what
  I do.. I sure hope this works out in the studio or I'm gonna be pissed..
  Maybe not the best choice for doing Pano's.. unless you have a Cray.. :-)

  jimbo

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Cdtobie 
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  Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: The megapixel issue - "again" and other issues

  >>> I am struggling with this issue also. I have pre-ordered the 36MP Nikon
  but am re-considering the need. Generally speaking it is a straight line
  function of 3 to translate the MP number to PSD size. So 36 goes to 108Mb 8
  bit and 216Mb 16 bit. 

  >I haven't examined all of the specs of this camera, but perhaps it's
  possible to capture in smaller RAW modes and using the full RAW size when
  needed.

  That misses one of the point:; putting in more pixels, then throwing away
  some of them loses the dynamic range that not increasing the pixel count,
  and using all the light that hits the sensor allows. 

  C. David Tobie
  Global Product Technology Manager
  Imaging Color Solutions
  Datacolor inc. 
  cdtobie@... <mailto:cdtobie%40datacolor.com> 
  www.datacolor.com

  On Mar 10, 2012, at 12:05 PM, "Don" <donsbryant@...
  <mailto:donsbryant%40gmail.com> > wrote:

  > > I am struggling with this issue also. I have pre-ordered the 36MP Nikon
  but am re-considering the need. Generally speaking it is a straight line
  function of 3 to translate the MP number to PSD size. So 36 goes to 108Mb 8
  bit and 216Mb 16 bit. 
  > >
  > 
  > I haven't examined all of the specs of this camera, but perhaps it's
  possible to capture in smaller RAW modes and using the full RAW size when
  needed.

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