Hello, Thank you for your email. I will be out of the office until May 8th. If you have an urgent need, please contact one of the Lab Coordinators or Dan McCoy at danielmc@.... Thanks, Nick Enghardt On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:20 AM, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Digital BW, The Print > Messages In This Digest (7 Messages) > 1a. > Re: Image Reversed From: Avron > 2a. > Re: Silver Efex Pro 2 or Topaz B&W From: John Anderson > 2b. > Re: Silver Efex Pro 2 or Topaz B&W From: Pete Bergstrom > 3a. > Re: Color Management, and conflicts with workplace lighting... From: Ron Smith > 4a. > Re: QTR calibration mode� of Epson 1390/ 1400 - weird artifacts in i From: chen.benedict > 5a. > Epson Exhibition Fiber paper white shift at -1.6 From: Ernst Dinkla > 5b. > Re: Epson Exhibition Fiber paper white shift at -1.6 From: Steve Kale > View All Topics | Create New Topic > Messages > 1a. > Re: Image Reversed > Posted by: "Avron" goravr@comcast.net � agordo55441 > Sun Apr�29,�2012 12:49�pm (PDT) > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Avron" <goravr@...> wrote: > > > > All of my images printed on my Epson 3800 are reversed. I am using CS5 and the Epson driver on an Mac. Can anyone tell me what setting in the Epson driver or in Photoshop to select to un-reverse? Thank you in advance for the ideas > > > Reversed from left to right. I believe I have solved the issue by checking "Reverse horizontal" in the print set up menu. Thanks > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (3) > 2a. > Re: Silver Efex Pro 2 or Topaz B&W > Posted by: "John Anderson" ccjrand@... � j0hn_and3rs0n > Sun Apr�29,�2012 3:10�pm (PDT) > > > G'day Bill, > > I mostly print colour but do the occasional B&W as the subject demands. > Formerly, I did all my conversions to B&W in Photoshop using one of the > many methods available there as appropriate. Last year I acquired the Topaz > package (I needed/wanted Adjust and Remask which fitted my processing > better than Nik) and that included B&W Effects. I now prefer to use it for > conversions rather than PS (faster to get the "effect"). It is very capable > but I usually do some micro adjustments using layer masks in PS. I did try > an eval of Silver Efex and was very impressed - it would further reduce PS > work. My take on it was that if B&W was going to be my primary goal, I > would go with Nik but if not, Topaz. OnOne had a similar set of offerings > but had no "killer" package IMHO. > > reagrds JA > > On 27 April 2012 02:27, Bill <bill-lewis@...> wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > A very good article I do see Silver Efex mentioned more than silver > > shadows which is seldom mentioned and has fallen from my list. In the > > process of watching Utube videos on Silver Efex I saw videos for Topaz B&W. > > It also looks to be a good product for much less than Silver Efex. > > > > Does anyone on the list use or have an opinion on Topaz B&W. This is one > > of several products from Topaz Labs that look similar to OnOne products. > > Needless to say the more I read and look the more confused I become I have > > Lightroom 4 and curently feel like I am standing in a pit at the base of > > the learning curve. I have watched a dozen or more videos on converting to > > B&W in Lightroom. I have just received Martin Evening's Lightroom 4 book > > and will look at what it has on B&W. > > > > So far the half dozen photos I converted in Lightroom are not what I would > > get from my darkroom. The blacks look black and the whites white but they > > seem to have too much in the midtones. This is my ability with the software > > and while I want to use lightroom properly for the immediate time I am > > looking for something that will assist in this so Silver Efex or Topaz B&W > > Silver Efex has an academic discount so for me retired and returning to > > College Classes the actual price is not that much more. I understand that > > Silver Efex will work stand alone or as a Photoshop plug-in while Topaz is > > only a plug-in. Probably either program would do more than I want but I am > > just trying to avoid buyers remorse. > > > > Bill Lewis > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (7) > 2b. > Re: Silver Efex Pro 2 or Topaz B&W > Posted by: "Pete Bergstrom" petebergstrom@... � pbergstrom2001 > Sun Apr�29,�2012 3:10�pm (PDT) > > > I use the Topaz B&W tool (and with the installation of a separate, free, > app from Topaz it can be used from Lightroom). I took a quick look at > Silver Efex when trying Topaz out and decided that I could understand the > Topaz UI better. My current B&W workflow starts in Lightroom (4.0) for most > images (RAW originals) and usually gets into Photoshop Elements (9.0) > quickly where I can work on multiple layers and even use the Topaz tools on > multiple layers. > > There is a trial version of the Topaz tools, although the one thing I > dislike is that they expect you to evaluate all of them in the same time > period (I may end up buying more than the Topaz B&W, Adjust, and Detail > tools I already have, but I tend to add on tools as my skills expand). I'd > recommend lining up a half dozen images that span the range of your > interests and dedicate a couple of hours to each one using each tool. I > found it hard to gauge the full tool in less than 10-15 hours of work. > > Pete > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Bill <bill-lewis@...> wrote: > > > A very good article I do see Silver Efex mentioned more than silver > > shadows which is seldom mentioned and has fallen from my list. In the > > process of watching Utube videos on Silver Efex I saw videos for Topaz B&W. > > It also looks to be a good product for much less than Silver Efex. > > > > Does anyone on the list use or have an opinion on Topaz B&W. This is one > > of several products from Topaz Labs that look similar to OnOne products. > > Needless to say the more I read and look the more confused I become I have > > Lightroom 4 and curently feel like I am standing in a pit at the base of > > the learning curve. I have watched a dozen or more videos on converting to > > B&W in Lightroom. I have just received Martin Evening's Lightroom 4 book > > and will look at what it has on B&W. > > > > So far the half dozen photos I converted in Lightroom are not what I would > > get from my darkroom. The blacks look black and the whites white but they > > seem to have too much in the midtones. This is my ability with the software > > and while I want to use lightroom properly for the immediate time I am > > looking for something that will assist in this so Silver Efex or Topaz B&W > > Silver Efex has an academic discount so for me retired and returning to > > College Classes the actual price is not that much more. I understand that > > Silver Efex will work stand alone or as a Photoshop plug-in while Topaz is > > only a plug-in. Probably either program would do more than I want but I am > > just trying to avoid buyers remorse. > > > > Bill Lewis > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > > they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > > page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > > them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > > membership without notice. > > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > > printing. 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David Tobie > Global Product Technology Manager > Datacolor > 5 Princess Road > Lawrenceville, NJ 08648, USA > 609.924.2189 > www.datacolor.com > > Phone: 207.685.9248 > Mobile: 207.312.0448 > Fax: 207.685.4455 > Email: mailto:cdtobie%40datacolor.com > Skype: cdtobie > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (2) > 4a. > Re: QTR calibration mode� of Epson 1390/ 1400 - weird artifacts in i > Posted by: "chen.benedict" benedictchen22@... � chen.benedict > Sun Apr�29,�2012 7:39�pm (PDT) > > > Thanks Paul, > > Unfortunately am not in the US and dealing with the refunds here is too troublesome. > > I got the print and matching with monitor to satisfactory levels. > > Will be experimenting with Arches next. > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@...> wrote: > > > > "chen.benedict" <benedictchen22@> wrote: > > > > > > ... my guess its that my printer head for LC is just bad when I got it. I don't think I get them to change the print head. > > > > > > If it is a new unit I'd make a warranty claim -- send it back for a new one. In the US Epson is very good about that. (Then they resell them on the "refurb" market.) > > > > > WOuld it be possible to work with just 5 ink slots? > > > > If you use QTR it's easy to use just 5 inks, and Eboni-5 works fine. I have a fair number of Eboni-4 (Y [2%}, LM [6%], M [18%] and K) QTR profiles in the Zip file. > > > > > must I change the order of ink? > > > > Not really. I often used the LC-C spots for cool glossy inks. In fact, you could just put some generic base in the LC spot and ignore it. Then use the C spot for a cool toner if you wanted that option. > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (9) > 5a. > Epson Exhibition Fiber paper white shift at -1.6 > Posted by: "Ernst Dinkla" e.dinkla@... � ernstdinkla > Mon Apr�30,�2012 1:44�am (PDT) > > > Latest 140 Megalux hours Aardenburg Imaging test and EEF is going into > red numbers; -1.6 Hahnem�hle Fine Art Baryta not that good either > on paper whites. > > -- > Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst > > Dinkla Grafische Techniek > Quad, pi�zografie, gicl�e > www.pigment-print.com > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (2) > 5b. > Re: Epson Exhibition Fiber paper white shift at -1.6 > Posted by: "Steve Kale" stevekale@... � s_g_kale > Mon Apr�30,�2012 3:10�am (PDT) > > > Ernst, remind me, what was the starting point for each? 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Re: [Digital BW] Digest Number 6924
2012-05-02 by Nick Enghardt