Hello, Thank you for your email. I will be out of the office until May 8th. If you have an urgent need, please contact one of the Lab Coordinators or Dan McCoy at danielmc@.... Thanks, Nick Enghardt On Apr 26, 2012, at 5:40 AM, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Digital BW, The Print > Messages In This Digest (12 Messages) > 1. > Best Curve Combination Epson Matte Heavy weight on Epson R1800? From: Marja Beckers > 2a. > Need a Printer Recommendation From: LouisD > 2b. > Re: Need a Printer Recommendation From: chen.benedict > 3a. > Silver Efex Pro 2 or Silver Shadows Pro From: Bill Lewis > 3b. > Re: Silver Efex Pro 2 or Silver Shadows Pro From: mehrdad > 3c. > Re: Silver Efex Pro 2 or Silver Shadows Pro From: C D Tobie > 3d. > Re: Silver Efex Pro 2 or Silver Shadows Pro From: Joseph Chandler > 4a. > Re: QTR calibration mode of Epson 1390/ 1400 - weird artifacts in i From: Paul > 4b. > Re: QTR calibration mode of Epson 1390/ 1400 - weird artifacts in i From: chen.benedict > 5a. > Re: Adhesive stickers on Arches Hot Press From: faeofavalon > 5b. > Re: Adhesive stickers on Arches Hot Press From: David Kachel > 6. > Tuning Output Profiles to Display Conditions From: C D Tobie > View All Topics | Create New Topic > Messages > 1. > Best Curve Combination Epson Matte Heavy weight on Epson R1800? > Posted by: "Marja Beckers" marjabeckers@... marja.beckers > Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:59 am (PDT) > > > Does anyone have any recommendation for printing on Epson Matte > Heavy weight paper using an Epson R1800? > > I need to be able to get as close as possible to a neutal black & white print. > > I have the following curves available: > UC_EEnMatte-Black > UC_EEnMatte-Cool > UC_EEnMatte-Sepia > > I use the standard Epson inks. > > All help very much appreciated! > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (1) > 2a. > Need a Printer Recommendation > Posted by: "LouisD" lou@loudina.com ldina > Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:00 am (PDT) > > > I need some advice from the group on a new large format printer. > > I've been using a Canon iPF6100 24" printer for the last 3 or 4 years and have been pleased with it for both color and B&W work. The weak point of this printer is the head life (less than 2 years, and at $500 each, and two heads per printer, it can get expensive. At least they are user replaceable). It never clogs, but when the heads go, they GO NOW! > > I want to buy a 24" (or possibly a 44") wide printer. I print much more color than B&W, so I want good gamut and Dmax. I plan to use the driver with custom color profiles, not a RIP. Ink costs are always a concern, and so are clogs. Low maintenance is HIGH on my list of priorities. > > My biggest problem is that I print only occasionally, usually in spurts, and sometimes I won't use my large format printer for 1–3 months at a time. I know that's begging for maintenance and head clogging problems. I guess I could farm out my larger work, but I lose control over the printing process, quality, etc., and as good as color management tools are, I still often like to print a 2nd or 3rd print to get exactly what I really want. > > I'd appreciate any printer suggestions. I am also open to other advise. > > I'd even consider a reliable used printer (workhorse) that will accept 3rd party inks. > > Thanks in advance for your suggestions! > > Lou Dina > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (2) > 2b. > Re: Need a Printer Recommendation > Posted by: "chen.benedict" benedictchen22@... chen.benedict > Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:33 am (PDT) > > > > > Firstly, I don't own a large format printer > Only a cannon 9500 mark 1 and a Epson 1400(recent purchase for BW work) > > To find out what I need to make the purchase of the Epson, I looked around and what I'm saying below is base on that. > > I read about Piezo Flush. Basically clear ink base that prevents clogging when you wish to put your printer in storage. They do sell ink bulk or ready Carts > > Example link (inkjetmall.com): > http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/it.A/id.4435/.f?sc=18&category=39435 > > I think the cone color ink which you can find in the site stated above have a good reputation. But i think they are on the expensive side. > > For example when compared with Inkjetcart.us offerings, 1 liter bottle of similar inks, the cone ink cost 125usd while the one and inkjetcart.us cost 95usd > > In general I believe that Original ink gives the best results so far. (Other more experienced member please weight-in on this) > > Epson now offers 10 color and 8 colors printers. I not sure if they make a difference. > > About outsourcing the prints, I think it might be a possible route if your area has a good printer who you can talk to and get the color exactly as you desire. I don't have that luxury here. > > With some math you could find out if its cost effective. > > From your experience with the cannon printer, you know how much it cost in total for the past 3 years and also should know the rough number of 24 inch prints you made. So the average cost of each print. > > Similar you can find the cost of a 24 inch print you can get for at a satisfactory level. You might wish to factor in several small prints in to find if you to the right color. > > cheers > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "LouisD" <lou@...> wrote: > > > > I need some advice from the group on a new large format printer. > > > > I've been using a Canon iPF6100 24" printer for the last 3 or 4 years and have been pleased with it for both color and B&W work. The weak point of this printer is the head life (less than 2 years, and at $500 each, and two heads per printer, it can get expensive. At least they are user replaceable). It never clogs, but when the heads go, they GO NOW! > > > > I want to buy a 24" (or possibly a 44") wide printer. I print much more color than B&W, so I want good gamut and Dmax. I plan to use the driver with custom color profiles, not a RIP. Ink costs are always a concern, and so are clogs. Low maintenance is HIGH on my list of priorities. > > > > My biggest problem is that I print only occasionally, usually in spurts, and sometimes I won't use my large format printer for 1�3 months at a time. I know that's begging for maintenance and head clogging problems. I guess I could farm out my larger work, but I lose control over the printing process, quality, etc., and as good as color management tools are, I still often like to print a 2nd or 3rd print to get exactly what I really want. > > > > I'd appreciate any printer suggestions. I am also open to other advise. > > > > I'd even consider a reliable used printer (workhorse) that will accept 3rd party inks. > > > > Thanks in advance for your suggestions! > > > > Lou Dina > > > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (2) > 3a. > Silver Efex Pro 2 or Silver Shadows Pro > Posted by: "Bill Lewis" bill-lewis@... bill-lewis@... > Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:28 am (PDT) > > > While looking for information on converting to B&W in Lightroom 4 I found Silver Efex Pro 2 and Silver Shadows Pro. These two products came up in searches while I have heard of Silver Efex and have found that it is available as an Academic license the price of Silver Shadows is still lower. Has anyone used these and what are your thoughts. > > I have also purchased books on LR 4 and have other books on B&W in photoshop and have watched some videos on converting to B&W. I have converted several and am mostly pleased with the result but they do not have the pop of the ones in the video. This may be the subject or the file I am using to convert they have been either scans of Fugi slides or 8 megapixel images from my Sony DSC-H3. I am doing a buy as I go so am still missing some important items that may help with viewing and printing. > > Thanks for your time > > Bill Lewis > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (4) > 3b. > Re: Silver Efex Pro 2 or Silver Shadows Pro > Posted by: "mehrdad" msadat@... msadat > Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:42 am (PDT) > > > i have been using silver efx pro since version 1 and all i can say it is a > great product, simple to use with a lot of pre built functions and lots of > flexibility when you want more. i do believe you can demo one for a while > without charge > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Bill Lewis <bill-lewis@sbcglobal.net>wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > While looking for information on converting to B&W in Lightroom 4 I found > > Silver Efex Pro 2 and Silver Shadows Pro. These two products came up in > > searches while I have heard of Silver Efex and have found that it is > > available as an Academic license the price of Silver Shadows is still > > lower. Has anyone used these and what are your thoughts. > > > > I have also purchased books on LR 4 and have other books on B&W in > > photoshop and have watched some videos on converting to B&W. I have > > converted several and am mostly pleased with the result but they do not > > have the pop of the ones in the video. This may be the subject or the file > > I am using to convert they have been either scans of Fugi slides or 8 > > megapixel images from my Sony DSC-H3. I am doing a buy as I go so am still > > missing some important items that may help with viewing and printing. > > > > Thanks for your time > > > > Bill Lewis > > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------- > regards, mehrdad > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (4) > 3c. > Re: Silver Efex Pro 2 or Silver Shadows Pro > Posted by: "C D Tobie" CDTobie@... cdtobie > Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:50 am (PDT) > > > > On Apr 25, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Bill Lewis wrote: > > > While looking for information on converting to B&W in Lightroom 4 I found Silver Efex Pro 2 and Silver Shadows Pro. These two products came up in searches while I have heard of Silver Efex and have found that it is available as an Academic license the price of Silver Shadows is still lower. Has anyone used these and what are your thoughts. > > Not sure if I posted this here before, but it may answer some of your questions: > > http://cdtobie.wordpress.com/2012/04/15/review-of-nik-softwares-silver-effects-pro-2/ > > C. David Tobie > Global Product Technology Manager > > Datacolor > 5 Princess Road > Lawrenceville, NJ 08648, USA > 609.924.2189 > www.datacolor.com > > Phone: 207.685.9248 > Mobile: 207.312.0448 > Fax: 207.685.4455 > Email: cdtobie@... > Skype: cdtobie > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (4) > 3d. > Re: Silver Efex Pro 2 or Silver Shadows Pro > Posted by: "Joseph Chandler" over40_98@... over40_98 > Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:57 pm (PDT) > > > Yes, you have posted this before, BUT, it's an excellent article, and I use the product. It's easier than PS conversions, and does seem to add "pop" to the conversion! > > Joseph Chandler > > From: C D Tobie <CDTobie@...> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 11:50 AM > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Silver Efex Pro 2 or Silver Shadows Pro > > > > On Apr 25, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Bill Lewis wrote: > > > While looking for information on converting to B&W in Lightroom 4 I found Silver Efex Pro 2 and Silver Shadows Pro. These two products came up in searches while I have heard of Silver Efex and have found that it is available as an Academic license the price of Silver Shadows is still lower. Has anyone used these and what are your thoughts. > > Not sure if I posted this here before, but it may answer some of your questions: > > http://cdtobie.wordpress.com/2012/04/15/review-of-nik-softwares-silver-effects-pro-2/ > > C. David Tobie > Global Product Technology Manager > > Datacolor > 5 Princess Road > Lawrenceville, NJ 08648, USA > 609.924.2189 > www.datacolor.com > > Phone: 207.685.9248 > Mobile: 207.312.0448 > Fax: 207.685.4455 > Email: cdtobie@... > Skype: cdtobie > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (4) > 4a. > Re: QTR calibration mode of Epson 1390/ 1400 - weird artifacts in i > Posted by: "Paul" roark.paul@... pr_roark > Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:43 am (PDT) > > > "chen.benedict" <benedictchen22@...> wrote: > > > > > My brand new 1390 (Asian version of 1400) printer has problems with one of the ink slot. > > > > Using the QTR calibration mode I have botchy inks for the Light cyan. > > > > Picture here: > > http://s627.photobucket.com/albums/tt360/beneAlpha/?action=view�t=weird-1.jpg > > Did you get a perfect nozzle check first? > > Are these the original Epson inks? If you make a warranty claim they will ask that and ask for the serial numbers of the ink cartridges. (At least that is the practice in the US.) > > My memory is that the Epson carts have an air inlet at the bottom of the cart that has a tab covering it. That tab must be removed. (I don't use many Epson OEM carts, so I may be wrong on this.) > > The image you showed looked like more than the usual foam in the ink problem that can happen with third party inks or refilling. Foam is not clogging and will dissipate if the printer is just left alone for a while. It usually shows up as random gaps in the nozzle check. > > An air bubble in the outlet might cause the problem. I would not expect that with new OEM carts. Their vacuum filling is rather good. > > > ... > > Also does the Light cyan denoted by QTR the same as Light Cyan cart in printer? > > Yes. > > Good luck with the printer. You may have a defective unit -- assuming the inks were new Epson inks that you were testing with. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (3) > 4b. > Re: QTR calibration mode of Epson 1390/ 1400 - weird artifacts in i > Posted by: "chen.benedict" benedictchen22@... chen.benedict > Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:20 am (PDT) > > > Hi Paul, > > Yes I got perfect nozzle checks. > 3rd party ink, Eboni 6. > Air bubbles makes sense. > > I'll try a calibration test again in a couple of days. > > Thanks! > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@...> wrote: > > > > "chen.benedict" <benedictchen22@> wrote: > > > > > > > > My brand new 1390 (Asian version of 1400) printer has problems with one of the ink slot. > > > > > > Using the QTR calibration mode I have botchy inks for the Light cyan. > > > > > > Picture here: > > > http://s627.photobucket.com/albums/tt360/beneAlpha/?action=view�t=weird-1.jpg > > > > > > Did you get a perfect nozzle check first? > > > > Are these the original Epson inks? If you make a warranty claim they will ask that and ask for the serial numbers of the ink cartridges. (At least that is the practice in the US.) > > > > > > My memory is that the Epson carts have an air inlet at the bottom of the cart that has a tab covering it. That tab must be removed. (I don't use many Epson OEM carts, so I may be wrong on this.) > > > > The image you showed looked like more than the usual foam in the ink problem that can happen with third party inks or refilling. Foam is not clogging and will dissipate if the printer is just left alone for a while. It usually shows up as random gaps in the nozzle check. > > > > An air bubble in the outlet might cause the problem. I would not expect that with new OEM carts. Their vacuum filling is rather good. > > > > > ... > > > Also does the Light cyan denoted by QTR the same as Light Cyan cart in printer? > > > > > > Yes. > > > > Good luck with the printer. You may have a defective unit -- assuming the inks were new Epson inks that you were testing with. > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (3) > 5a. > Re: Adhesive stickers on Arches Hot Press > Posted by: "faeofavalon" faeofavalon@... faeofavalon > Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:37 pm (PDT) > > > Seems like you guys didn't get my last message. I work for Utrecht and corporate told me they would make sure the Arches paper doesn't have stickers on it for YOU. The price is also cheaper! Just send me an email and we can talk about shipping, etc. > > -AnnMarie > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, David Kachel <david@...> wrote: > > > > From: Paul <roark.paul@...> > > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m> > > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:24:46 -0000 > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Adhesive stickers on Arches Hot Press > > > > >>> Have you called Dick Blick to see if they still have "stickerless" Arches > > HP? In the past they have been OK from that source. > > > > Actually, I have done better than that. > > Today I spoke directly with Cansons. > > Here is the real storyŠ > > > > ColArt/Cansons will package paper the way resellers want it. Its resellers > > who have insisted on the stickers. Exactly the opposite of what Jerrys told > > me. > > > > To buy 25 sheet packages without stickers, you want to request Cansons stock > > number 523-14. (That's 140lb Hot Press.) > > > > It turns out this is a case of retailers making their own lives easier while > > not giving a damn about the buyer. Cansons is blameless and were VERY > > pleasant to deal with; the exact opposite of Jerrys. > > > > I also called danielsmith.com today. Talked to a fellow named Colin. He too > > was the exact opposite of Jerrys. Very pleasant to deal with and most eager > > to be helpful. They have the stickerless paper, though apparently use their > > own stock number: 159-281-003. They sell the paper with stickers too, so be > > sure to be specific. > > > > > > > > David Kachel > > > > ___________________ > > > > Artist-Photographer > > Fine B&W Photographs > > > > www.davidkachel.com > > david@... > > > > Gallery: > > www.reddoorfinephotographs.com > > director@... > > > > PO Box 1893 > > Alpine, TX 79831 > > (432) 386-5787 > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (23) > 5b. > Re: Adhesive stickers on Arches Hot Press > Posted by: "David Kachel" david@davidkachel.com davidkachel > Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:54 pm (PDT) > > > From: faeofavalon <faeofavalon@...> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:36:59 -0000 > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Adhesive stickers on Arches Hot Press > > Seems like you guys didn't get my last message. I work for Utrecht and > corporate told me they would make sure the Arches paper doesn't have > stickers on it for YOU. The price is also cheaper! Just send me an email and > we can talk about shipping, etc. > > I did miss that. Thanks. Please send me prices off list. > > David Kachel > > ___________________ > > Artist-Photographer > Fine B&W Photographs > > www.davidkachel.com > david@... > > Gallery: > www.reddoorfinephotographs.com > director@... > > PO Box 1893 > Alpine, TX 79831 > (432) 386-5787 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (23) > 6. > Tuning Output Profiles to Display Conditions > Posted by: "C D Tobie" CDTobie@... cdtobie > Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:12 pm (PDT) > > > I had promised earlier today to write up directions for tuning output profiles for specific display conditions. 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Re: [Digital BW] Digest Number 6920
2012-05-02 by Nick Enghardt