Hello, Thank you for your email. I will be out of the office until May 8th. If you have an urgent need, please contact one of the Lab Coordinators or Dan McCoy at danielmc@.... Thanks, Nick Enghardt On Apr 25, 2012, at 5:48 AM, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Digital BW, The Print > Messages In This Digest (9 Messages) > 1a. > Re: 2K2LK Inkset with Red River Polar Pearl Metallic Paper From: remononaz1 > 2. > Canon 5D Mark lll Firmware Update Released; but with OS Limitations From: C D Tobie > 3a. > Re: Adhesive stickers on Arches Hot Press From: David Kachel > 3b. > Re: Adhesive stickers on Arches Hot Press From: Paul > 3c. > Re: Adhesive stickers on Arches Hot Press From: David Kachel > 4a. > Re: Epson 1430 and Eboni 6 request From: mis_inksupply > 4b. > Re: Epson 1430 and Eboni 6 request From: Dave > 5. > Best Curve Combination Epson Matte Heavy weight on Epson R1800? From: Marja Beckers > 6. > QTR calibration mode of Epson 1390/ 1400 - weird artifacts in ink 5 From: chen.benedict > View All Topics | Create New Topic > Messages > 1a. > Re: 2K2LK Inkset with Red River Polar Pearl Metallic Paper > Posted by: "remononaz1" homershannon@gmail.com remononaz1 > Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:37 am (PDT) > > > I am using the MIS D2-4-K dyebase black ink. I did anticipate that this would be different than the Claria inks. It is not so wildly different that you can't adjust for it. > > I don't understand why the QTR create ICC tool does not work better with this combination. The ICCs it made were worse than no adjustments. I've used this tool very successfully with the UT14 ink set and other papers. Any ideas? > > I haven't tried to figure out the process for using 2K2LK with the QTR and the .acv curves. One step at at time ;-) > > Thank you for you help. > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (3) > 2. > Canon 5D Mark lll Firmware Update Released; but with OS Limitations > Posted by: "C D Tobie" CDTobie@... cdtobie > Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:38 am (PDT) > > > Canon has released a firmware update for the 5D Mark lll; but you may have to borrow a computer to install it: > > http://cdtobie.wordpress.com/2012/04/24/firmware-update-for-canon-5d-mark-lll-download-it-now/ > > C. David Tobie > cdtobie.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (1) > 3a. > Re: Adhesive stickers on Arches Hot Press > Posted by: "David Kachel" david@davidkachel.com davidkachel > Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:22 am (PDT) > > > Thought you guys might like an update on this. > Jerrys Artarama finally replaced the paper in questionŠ > with paper also having stickers on it! > > They replaced defective paper with defective paper, and now they are digging > their heels in. > > So it appears that Jerrys is no longer a viable source for Arches Hot Press > (and who knows what other papers they will be adding stickers to). > > Does anyone have another source for Arches Hot Press without stickers? > Jerrys claims it is the distributor Colart/Canson's who is doing this. If > true then we will need sellers who buy their paper from someone other than > Colart. > > David Kachel > > ___________________ > > Artist-Photographer > Fine B&W Photographs > > www.davidkachel.com > david@... > > Gallery: > www.reddoorfinephotographs.com > director@... > > PO Box 1893 > Alpine, TX 79831 > (432) 386-5787 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (21) > 3b. > Re: Adhesive stickers on Arches Hot Press > Posted by: "Paul" roark.paul@... pr_roark > Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:24 pm (PDT) > > > Have you called Dick Blick to see if they still have "stickerless" Arches HP? In the past they have been OK from that source. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, David Kachel <david@...> wrote: > > > > Thought you guys might like an update on this. > > Jerrys Artarama finally replaced the paper in questionŠ > > with paper also having stickers on it! > > > > They replaced defective paper with defective paper, and now they are digging > > their heels in. > > > > So it appears that Jerrys is no longer a viable source for Arches Hot Press > > (and who knows what other papers they will be adding stickers to). > > > > Does anyone have another source for Arches Hot Press without stickers? > > Jerrys claims it is the distributor Colart/Canson's who is doing this. If > > true then we will need sellers who buy their paper from someone other than > > Colart. > > > > > > David Kachel > > > > ___________________ > > > > Artist-Photographer > > Fine B&W Photographs > > > > www.davidkachel.com > > david@... > > > > Gallery: > > www.reddoorfinephotographs.com > > director@... > > > > PO Box 1893 > > Alpine, TX 79831 > > (432) 386-5787 > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (21) > 3c. > Re: Adhesive stickers on Arches Hot Press > Posted by: "David Kachel" david@... davidkachel > Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:05 pm (PDT) > > > From: Paul <roark.paul@gmail.com> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:24:46 -0000 > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Adhesive stickers on Arches Hot Press > > >>> Have you called Dick Blick to see if they still have "stickerless" Arches > HP? In the past they have been OK from that source. > > Actually, I have done better than that. > Today I spoke directly with Cansons. > Here is the real storyŠ > > ColArt/Cansons will package paper the way resellers want it. Its resellers > who have insisted on the stickers. Exactly the opposite of what Jerrys told > me. > > To buy 25 sheet packages without stickers, you want to request Cansons stock > number 523-14. (That's 140lb Hot Press.) > > It turns out this is a case of retailers making their own lives easier while > not giving a damn about the buyer. Cansons is blameless and were VERY > pleasant to deal with; the exact opposite of Jerrys. > > I also called danielsmith.com today. Talked to a fellow named Colin. He too > was the exact opposite of Jerrys. Very pleasant to deal with and most eager > to be helpful. They have the stickerless paper, though apparently use their > own stock number: 159-281-003. They sell the paper with stickers too, so be > sure to be specific. > > David Kachel > > ___________________ > > Artist-Photographer > Fine B&W Photographs > > www.davidkachel.com > david@... > > Gallery: > www.reddoorfinephotographs.com > director@... > > PO Box 1893 > Alpine, TX 79831 > (432) 386-5787 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (21) > 4a. > Re: Epson 1430 and Eboni 6 request > Posted by: "mis_inksupply" mis_inksupply@... mis_inksupply > Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:04 pm (PDT) > > > If you would like to send us a sample image to print I can have it printed next week when I can get some free time with the printer. I will put the image along with a 21 step wedge on the test prints. > > Please send the request to support@inksupply.com and include your shipping details. If you put my name in the subject line along with the request for EB6 it will get forwarded to me. > > I will send free test prints for anyone in the USA that would like one, but the EB6 will only be in the printer for a day or two before we will have to pull it for other test products, and I will not be able to guarentee prints once we pull it. > > I have a surplus of our 180 GSM Premier Art matte paper that I can use to run the prints, other papers would be subject to paper sample prices. > > -Justin > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mccarvill" <mccarvill@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Maybe ask MIS if they would send you a sample. Their competitor, Jon Cone, sells Piezography samples, so MIS should do this as well. > > > > Mark > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Dave <cowcreekroad@> wrote: > > > > > > Thank you, Paul. > > > > > > Unfortunately, my very limited experience with the L*A*B process keeps me from understanding these values in anything but a very approximate and relative sense. I know that if I saw samples, I'd be able to evaluate coloration without a problem, but viewing an array of values is just too disconnected from my visual experience. > > > > > > RGB values of gray patches would be more helpful, in that I'm very familiar with the process, and I could easily reproduce the colors on my monitor or in print. > > > > > > Ideally, I'd like to see samples of E-6 on paper, in the flesh. > > > > > > > > > On Apr 19, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Paul wrote: > > > > > > > Dave <cowcreekroad@> wrote: > > > > > > > >> ... about the 1400/Eboni 6, ... > > > > > > > >> would any of you be willing and able to send me a list of the RGB values you're reading (with a spectrocolorimeter) from a typical Eboni-6/1400 print of a grayscale step wedge? My preferred paper at this point is Entrada Bright, but readings from any paper would be welcome. I'm interested in a color range that's just on the warm side of neutral. > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My PDF on Eboni-6 has several graphs of the Lab A and B values for various papers. > > > > See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-6.pdf > > > > > > > > The Lab B measures the yellow (positive) - blue (negative Lab B) of the image. It is the single best measure of warmth. Both the absolute values and the change from the paper white affect the impression of warmth. I think you'll find the papers with the low Lab B rise probably meet your criteria of "just on the warm side of neutral." > > > > > > > > Additionally, while I do not have values for the Entrada bright, I do for the natural. A screen grab of values for it and some others has been uploaded to http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eb-MoabEntN-others.JPG > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (8) > 4b. > Re: Epson 1430 and Eboni 6 request > Posted by: "Dave" cowcreekroad@... cowcreekroad > Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:29 pm (PDT) > > > Thank you Justin! I'll drop you a line this evening, when I get back to the computer. > > On Apr 24, 2012, at 1:04 PM, mis_inksupply wrote: > > > If you would like to send us a sample image to print I can have it printed next week when I can get some free time with the printer. I will put the image along with a 21 step wedge on the test prints. > > > > Please send the request to support@... and include your shipping details. If you put my name in the subject line along with the request for EB6 it will get forwarded to me. > > > > I will send free test prints for anyone in the USA that would like one, but the EB6 will only be in the printer for a day or two before we will have to pull it for other test products, and I will not be able to guarentee prints once we pull it. > > > > I have a surplus of our 180 GSM Premier Art matte paper that I can use to run the prints, other papers would be subject to paper sample prices. > > > > -Justin > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mccarvill" <mccarvill@...> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Maybe ask MIS if they would send you a sample. Their competitor, Jon Cone, sells Piezography samples, so MIS should do this as well. > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Dave <cowcreekroad@> wrote: > >>> > >>> Thank you, Paul. > >>> > >>> Unfortunately, my very limited experience with the L*A*B process keeps me from understanding these values in anything but a very approximate and relative sense. I know that if I saw samples, I'd be able to evaluate coloration without a problem, but viewing an array of values is just too disconnected from my visual experience. > >>> > >>> RGB values of gray patches would be more helpful, in that I'm very familiar with the process, and I could easily reproduce the colors on my monitor or in print. > >>> > >>> Ideally, I'd like to see samples of E-6 on paper, in the flesh. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Apr 19, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Paul wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dave <cowcreekroad@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> ... about the 1400/Eboni 6, ... > >>>> > >>>>> would any of you be willing and able to send me a list of the RGB values you're reading (with a spectrocolorimeter) from a typical Eboni-6/1400 print of a grayscale step wedge? My preferred paper at this point is Entrada Bright, but readings from any paper would be welcome. I'm interested in a color range that's just on the warm side of neutral. > >>>> ... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> My PDF on Eboni-6 has several graphs of the Lab A and B values for various papers. > >>>> See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-6.pdf > >>>> > >>>> The Lab B measures the yellow (positive) - blue (negative Lab B) of the image. It is the single best measure of warmth. Both the absolute values and the change from the paper white affect the impression of warmth. I think you'll find the papers with the low Lab B rise probably meet your criteria of "just on the warm side of neutral." > >>>> > >>>> Additionally, while I do not have values for the Entrada bright, I do for the natural. A screen grab of values for it and some others has been uploaded to http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eb-MoabEntN-others.JPG > >>>> > >>>> Hope this helps. > >>>> > >>>> Paul > >>>> www.PaulRoark.com > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. 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Re: [Digital BW] Digest Number 6919
2012-05-02 by Nick Enghardt