Digital BW, The Print

That was true a few years ago but not anymore. Constructively it's really 
easy to have a negative opinion of the process.. but one needs to get it to 
where the potential is realistically on a par.. If you use an LS 5000 ED / 
9000 etc as a comparison which are 4000 dpi scanners you need a camera like 
the Canon 5Dmark iii @ 22.3 Mp or greater to gather the same information.. 
In the past I was using a 12 MP D700 / D3 etc rig and could only capture 
about half of what a 4000 dpi scan could.. The rules have now changed quite 
a bit.. The D800e which does not have the usual  low pass filter is 36+ MP 
or 7360 pixels as compared to 5652 or so from the LS 5000.. The line length 
out of a Canon 5d is slightly longer also.. Admittedly, a line array sensor 
may have an advantage in some cases but today we have literally incredible 
software and capture tools at our disposal to use with a DSLR..

None of this will replace a proper drum scan today but when the process is 
optimized I think most would be quite surprised with the quality of the 
results.. Additionally, their is one very good reason to pursue it..... 
simply time.. A conventional scan regardless of what scanner we use 
typically is like watching paint dry to complete .. That's totally ok if 
your only doing a few .. but what if your trying to bring a collection into 
digital.. A DSLR wins hands down.. You can always go back and do a drum scan 
on the images that are appropriate.. but I think most would be very 
surprised at the results you can pull out of a DSLR and LR4 very 
quickly...In my wildest dreams I never figured we'd be able to get a 200mb+ 
16bit file off a 35mm slide in a matter of seconds.. We'd be nuts not to at 
least try and work out a system to make that process work.. Their are so 
many process options to explore.. nothing is really fixed in stone ...it's 
more about our tenacity in making the process meet our expectations.. Those 
that are familiar with scanning know that a scanner input profile's job is 
to characterize how the scanner see's a particular film types emulsion.. I 
think most that are fooling with DSLR / film captures are forgetting how 
important that step is and it's not done... Anyway, the point is  for those 
that take the time to create a quality process, this is really an 
opportunity to have yet another way to move film to digital..

jimbo






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From: "Derek Clarke" <derek_c@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Using Camera/Copy Stand to "Scan" Negatives


> If you already have a scanner then use that as no camera can match the
> resolution.
>
> On 22 July 2012 15:10, Paula Berg <Berg@...> wrote:
>
>> I have been following with interest the discussion of using a copy
>> stand, light tablet, and digital camera to copy negatives instead of
>> scanning. I have been using a Nikon 9000 to scan black and white 35mm
>> and 120 negatives. If this alternative works as well, I would strongly
>> consider selling my scanner. Could someone who is doing this please
>> describe it in greater detail? For example, what length camera lens do
>> you use? Do you place a piece of glass on top of the negative? Anything
>> else one needs to know about how to do it? Also, it would be great if
>> someone would post a copy of a negative copied using this method. Thanks
>> so much. Paula Berg
>>
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