Digital BW, The Print

Mark,

I just want to point out that the MIS FS was designed largely to be used
with the Piezo driver, which is not available for the 870. It is a quad set
and you have a hex printer so the ink in the photo magenta position is the
same as the magenta position and the and photo cyan position in is identical
to the ink in cyan position.

Try modifying the Chris Brandin Workflow for six color printers. The 870
does not appear to be a common printer for use with quad or hex inks and you
may be fighting a lonely and uphill battle to get it to do what you want.
You images suggest a very flawed adjustment or separation curve or transfer
curve. Remember it is not just amount tone but about placing in the inks in
the proper tones, in the proper amounts.

Martin

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "markjamesfisher" <markjamesfisher@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 7:22 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: beginner -- Problem with MIS full spectrum inkset


> Thanks Barry -- You are right about this histogram.  This was a very
> difficult negetive in the wet darkroom.  The sky was extremely dense
> in the negetive (FP4+).  The file shown is a very flat scan (done in
> slide mode and inversed to punch through the dense sky) to try to get
> all the detail.  I was confused about the origin of this particular
> version.  It is the original RGB version scanned from the blanck and
> white negetive (sorry about that!).  I actually will mess around with
> the curves once I better understand how the MIS inks work.  When I
> printed with Epson inks I did adjust it quite a bit to bet a range of
> tones. I'll definately look at the Paul Roark work flows.
>
> Thanks -- Mark
>
>
>
> I will take a l --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...,
> "flyfishingusa2002" <tflyfish@c...> wrote:
> > Mark,
> > If you have a look at the histogram for your print using the FS inks
> > you will see that you have no full blacks, a huge gap and "blown
> > out" highlights.
> >
> > Instead of converting from duotone, why not use the Paul Roake
> > workflow from your original RGB? It is pretty simple. The beauty of
> > the FS inks is there ability to show lots of shadow detail, so I
> > would definately work on that. I try to get a quite a few full black
> > areas on my prints.
> >
> > The usual method of converting to greyscale is to use the mixer
> > method, have a look around and you should find lots of references to
> > doing this.
> >
> > Make sure that your printer is firing on all nozzles with a head
> > check.
> >
> > I stuggled for years with a wet darkroom and finally gave up. What I
> > can do with PhotoShop and Quad inks I could never have done with the
> > wet darkroom. I wonder if Ansel would have stuck with the wet if he
> > had photoshop available to him? I would love to get a scan of one of
> > his negs to see what kind of print I could get!
> >
> > If you would like to email me a copy of your orginal file, I will
> > see what I can do if you like.
> >
> > I hope that I have been of some help.
> >
> > Barry
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "markjamesfisher"
> > <markjamesfisher@y...> wrote:
> > > I've done a fair amount of wet darkroom work and am starting my
> > foray
> > > into the digital side.  I was dissapointed with using color inks
> > and
> > > duotoning on my Epson 870(seemed very difficult to get consistant
> > > results).  I am now trying the Full Spectrum Inks from MIS --
> > trying
> > > but not succeeding!
> > >
> > > I have two images posted at:
> > >
> > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=188255
> > >
> > >
> > > One image is as seen on screen and one is the printed image.  The
> > > image was in duotone and converted to to RBG.  I created a transfer
> > > function per the Nevins method described on the MIS website and
> > > applied that before printing on Epson Archival Matte.
> > >
> > > I imagine the is a simple thing to fix, but I tried to search the
> > > archive without much luck.  I am anxious to get out of the
> > darkroom,
> > > but it seems I have a lot to learn.
> > >
> > > Thanks -- Mark
>
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