On 12/05/2012 07:12 PM, Paul wrote: > At the end of the PDF I have an Appendix that looks at the HP neutral > 50% patch performance of some of the tests at > http://www.aardenburg-imaging.com/ . It might be of interest to > those who want a neutral ink that seems to have handled the > differential fading issue the best. The 50% neutral test patches -- > RGB and GS -- presumably have some of the color HP inks in them also. > So, this is obviously not a perfect view of how the separate neutral > inks will perform. But, given the reality of incomplete information, > the tests of the HP neutral patches are still impressive. > > Paul www.PaulRoark.com Paul, There will be no color HP inks in the patches. Not if the profiling has been done on the printer itself. The papers are almost neutral, the PK ink tends to be slightly cool b -1.6 (Pearl is b 1.6) and the Z3100 models use an extreme UCR so no composite greys even in color mode. At least that is what I observed with Photorag patches under a microscope. The test results represent your future (Vivera only) prints too in my opinion. What shifts is mainly the paper white itself, L goes up 0.4-1 DE right away like in most papers, then becomes almost stable, b gets a bit warmer in time. On the unfaded Photorag patches it is interesting to see the MK patch of 100% as neutral/warm where the 80% patch is cool, PK taking over there on the neutral spine, the lighter patches will be Grey and Light Grey ink. From the 80% to paper white the b is crossing the neutral axis, the paper white shift in time to warm has the same influence, no color ink there and no color ink shift happening in my opinion. MK black does not shift either. Pearl uses the PK black + the grey inks + gloss enhancer and has no OBA in the paper. ColorByte learned something of what HP engineers did with the Z3100 media presets and made similar ones for the Epson x900 models in ImagePrint: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/the_weakest_link.shtml It can go the other way too: When I got my HP Z3100 more than 5 years ago I upgraded my Wasatch Softrip to drive that printer too. The first thing I noticed was that Wasatch had lousy media presets compared to the HP driver. In that case the third party driver did a bad job on all kinds of ink mix substitutions; black generation, N-color hue substitutions etc. A microscope on the prints told enough. The HP driver relied on an extreme UCR and also replaced much of the cMmY mixes with RGB inks where possible. I noticed much more "metamerism" with the Wasatch prints and a higher ink consumption. I also predicted less color stability in printing and less fade resistance in time. The Vivera pigments are in itself more fade resistant than the Epson UltraChrome HDR inks (yellow remains weak) but the HP engineers were clever enough to improve on that with the design of the media presets. For the Z3200 the UCR approach may be less Spartanic, it will be interesting to see whether that is reflected in the Aardenburg tests. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst Dinkla http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm December 2012: 500+ inkjet media paper white spectral plots.
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: 7800 Eboni-6 plus HP neutral/cool gray ink K3 setup
2012-12-06 by Ernst Dinkla
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