Digital BW, The Print

> if MIS will make and sell it, a UT14-LLC

MIS is selling it now. Any idea what the ratio of LC to base is? It's not listed on their Web site.

Thanks, 

Mark  


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Paul Roark <roark.paul@...> wrote:
>
> Joseph Meyerson <lensandcamera@...> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > I just picked up a 1430 on rebate, and before I open it up, I want to know
> > what my options are. I'd like to go CIS ...
> >
> 
> MIS (http://www.inksupply.com/ut14_black_and_white.cfm and
> http://www.inksupply.com/eb6.cfm) and Piezography have been the primary
> third party B&W vendors used by people on this forum.
> 
> MIS sells many but not all of the inksets I've used and written up over the
> years.
> 
> There are a lot of variables in terms of which system is most likely to fit
> your preferences.
> 
> As to the MIS/Inksupply.com offerings, they have Eboni-6 and UT14 inksets
> that are aimed at the 1400/1430.  My PDFs for those are at
> http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-6.pdf and
> http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/UT14.pdf .
> 
> Eboni is matte paper only; UT14 can do it all, but there are other
> compromises (no free lunch here).
> 
> Eboni carbon, due to its lightfastness and low cost, plays a large roll in
> my printing.  Many, including myself, often want more neutrality than 100%
> carbon can achieve.  Thus, I've put together modifications of the Eboni-6
> inkset that achieve this.
> See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-4-Plus.pdf   This inkset can do
> outstanding matte prints and good neutral glossy ones.
> 
> I currently have 2 1400s: one with Eboni in it, and one with Epson-Noritsu
> dyes in it.  I have more profiles for the Eboni based systems than for the
> UT14 system.  Both are Epson driver compatible.  While I use QTR for most
> of my printing, having the Epson driver available can be very handy and a
> good place to starts.
> 
> The dye approach requires some mixing.  See
> http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/1400-Claria-Noritsu-2K2LK.pdf   For a CIS,
> the cost of the Noritsu carts ($186 per 500 ml cart) may be a bit
> off-putting. For longevity, it's not bad, but not in the same league as
> carbon.
> 
> In my printing, Eboni carbon on matte paper is for longevity and the high
> end of fine art.  The dyes are for glossy, high-impact prints -- what I
> call "eye candy."  They make great cards and sell.
> 
> For my college kid I set up an Eboni CIS system.  The Eboni CIS system
> lasted 4 years.  The CIS does need weekly agitation for the best
> consistency.  (Actually, the CIS was what I call "Carbon-6," Eboni diluted
> with generic base.  See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Ink-Mixing.pdf )
> 
> ... pigment, and glossy as well as matte?
> >
> I'd look carefully at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-4-Plus.pdf
> 
> I also
> > should note that there are periods I might not print for 2-3 weeks, so if
> > that is a deal breaker for pigment, so be it.
> >
> 
> The 1400 is very tolerant in this respect.  Other factors include the
> amount of binder in the ink.  The dilute Eboni positions have almost none,
> and thus virtually never clog.  Eboni MK will clog just like any MK
> pigment, but no worse, from what I can tell.  The 1430 should be able to
> handle the periods you're dealing with.
> 
> The glossy compatible pigments can also clog.  Again, I think the 1430
> should be able to handle it.  I think the HP PK and LK options may be a bit
> better in this regard than the MIS UT14C and LC.  But I think either will
> be fine.
> 
> (p.s.: Willing to spray overcoat if need be.)
> >
> 
> The less you have to do the better.  I spray the dye prints for display,
> but it's toxic and not good for the environment.  I no longer have any
> interest in supporting glop or multi-pass workflows; too many problems.  In
> fact, for UT14, I'd not put in the Y position glop but go for a second
> UT14-LC (or, if MIS will make and sell it, a UT14-LLC).  This would require
> some more profiling, however.
> 
> Needless to say, these are my opinions.
> 
> Good luck in your search.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
> http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/
> 
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