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RE: [Digital BW] More neutral 100% Eboni Carbon print on Arches

2013-08-14 by nospam

Please count me as NO ONE then. The NO ONE who has always sought after a
neutral print. 

 

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Kachel
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:41 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] More neutral 100% Eboni Carbon print on Arches

 

  



On 8/14/13 5:48 AM, "Louis de Stoutz" <loudest@...
<mailto:loudest%40attglobal.net> > wrote:

>As I matter of principle, I would like to be able to make a 100% carbon
>pigment print on Arches watercolor paper (and others) that is visually
>neutral. I appreciate warm prints also. However, I do like neutral
>prints for many situations, and it's a challenge to make a "neutral"
>print with only carbon pigments.

Let me play devil's advocate here and see if we can't stir the pot a bit�

Before digital (BD), NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE, was after a "neutral"
print!

Even when using warm tone papers, silver gelatin prints came out green. A
sickly, nasty, repugnant, unacceptable, greeeeen!!!

Never, EVER, "neutral".

Photographers could hardly wait to get those nasty looking green prints
into a toning bath, usually selenium (for a "cool purple sepia" color), in
order to make that green color go away before the photographer threw up.

The goal was either selenium purple or one of hundreds of flavors of
brown/sepia. I don't recall anyone ever seeking "neutral".

So my question is: when and how did "neutral" become the holy grail of B&W
fine art photography?

Just to stir the pot a little more�

I challenge everyone to make three prints of the same image;

One "neutral", one selenium and one brown/sepia. Make all three as
pleasing to yourself as you can.

Then I dare you to tell me you genuinely like the "neutral" print best!

And if by chance you DO like the neutral print best, why weren't you after
that tone when you were printing silver?

If you never printed silver, go away sonny, you bother me! ;-)

David Kachel

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