Digital BW, The Print

Hi Paul,
Thank you for responding. I will look into QTR's Create ICC-RGB option. At this point, I would not know which way to create a desirable curve, but it is nice to know that they can be embedded into the ICC profile.
Jim 

     On Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:58 PM, "tyler@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
   

     You are correct that the gray component tools and a variety of other profile building options affecting ink makeup in neutrals are only available when making CMYK profiles, for a CMYK driver like a RIP. You can however improve gray neutrality in RGB profiles with i1Publish by optimizing with a large neutral and near neutral patch set. I have one that was in circulation for some time, then it disappeared, I thought it was made available on the xrite site, but I don't easily find it there. 
There are these you might take a look at-
i1Profiler .cxf Optimization Files 
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But I can't vouch for them from personal experience. Any of this depends on owning i1Publish of course. For those using the Datacolor software, I believe there is a similar extended patch set for more accurate neutrals.
If you have the xrite software and want the extended gray chart that used to be available, email me and I'll see what I can do. There are usually some proprietory reasons things like this suddenly disappear from the internet.
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