Bruce, try Generations inks (All enhanced) on a paper like Royal Riviera or Wells River, and you will get super blacks. (Wipe down the wells river, it flakes badly). Jerry Bruce wrote: > on 3/23/2002 9:54 AM, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com at > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Frank wrote: > > Message: 9 > > Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 14:49:01 -0000 > > From: "culturalvisions" <frank@...> > > Subject: Re: For Della On Shadows > > > > In response to this antiquated argument, I have yet to see a > > silver print with the tonal range of a platinum print. And I have > > seen lots of beautiful silver prints and lots of beautiful platinum > > prints. The goal for me is not to make a digital print that imitates > > these. In fact, an inkjet print looks more like a photogravure. > > > > I have yet to see an apple that looks like an orange. These are > > not valid arguments. What is important to digital printers is > > making the most beautiful print we can with our chosen medium. > > This is also most important to platinum and silver printmakers. > > Mike Wrote: > > I fully agree that Piezo technology is quitre good, in fact it has > > progressed to the point of being very good. However, as a member director of > > a Photography Center and Museum I must tell you that I have yet to see a > > Piezo print that can match the quality of a fine silver or platinum print. > > They are getting quite close, but there are some pretty good silver printers > > out there. I would venture to say that it will still be a while for the > > paper coatings and inks to be able to replicate the "glow" and lunminescence > > of a Michael Kenna or John Sexton print. > > > > Just my thoughts my firnd. > > > > Mike > > Just my 2 cents: > > My Piezo prints look better than any silver prints I've made, but only > because I have much more control over the image through photoshop than I had > with the enlarger. I also have more skill with photoshop than with dodging > and burning under the safelight. > > On the other hand, the Piezo prints just do not have the dynamic range of > silver prints. I think that the biggest issue here is that the pigment > black is not black enough. I suspect that if we could have a black ink as > dark as the Epson OEM black dye ink, ink jet B&W prints would rival > traditional silver prints and perhaps, surpass them. > > Our "chosen medium" need not be limited to the subdued inkjet look. We > should be able to dial in any look possible though skill, and choice of > paper and ink--in the ideal world. > > -Bruce > > Visit my website at: > http://home.earthlink.net/~smthopr > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: For Della On Shadows
2002-03-24 by Jerry Olson
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