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Re: [Digital BW] Re: For Della On Shadows

2002-03-24 by Jerry Olson

Bruce, try Generations inks (All enhanced) on a paper like Royal Riviera or Wells River, and you will get super blacks. (Wipe down the wells
river, it flakes badly).

Jerry

Bruce wrote:

> on 3/23/2002 9:54 AM, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com at
> DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Frank wrote:
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 14:49:01 -0000
> > From: "culturalvisions" <frank@...>
> > Subject: Re: For Della On Shadows
> >
> > In response to this antiquated argument, I have yet to see a
> > silver print with the tonal range of a platinum print.  And I have
> > seen lots of beautiful silver prints and lots of beautiful platinum
> > prints.  The goal for me is not to make a digital print that imitates
> > these.  In fact, an inkjet print looks more like a photogravure.
> >
> > I have yet to see an apple that looks like an orange.  These are
> > not valid arguments.  What is important to digital printers is
> > making the most beautiful print we can with our chosen medium.
> > This is also most important to platinum and silver printmakers.
>
> Mike Wrote:
> > I fully agree that Piezo technology is quitre good, in fact it has
> > progressed to the point of being very good. However, as a member director of
> > a Photography Center and Museum I must tell you that I have yet to see a
> > Piezo print that can match the quality of a fine silver or platinum print.
> > They are getting quite close, but there are some pretty good silver printers
> > out there. I would venture to say that it will still be a while for the
> > paper coatings and inks to be able to replicate the "glow" and lunminescence
> > of a Michael Kenna or John Sexton print.
> >
> > Just my thoughts my firnd.
> >
> > Mike
>
> Just my 2 cents:
>
> My Piezo prints look better than any silver prints I've made, but only
> because I have much more control over the image through photoshop than I had
> with the enlarger.  I also have more skill with photoshop than with dodging
> and burning under the safelight.
>
> On the other hand, the Piezo prints just do not have the dynamic range of
> silver prints.  I think that the biggest issue here is that the pigment
> black is not black enough.  I suspect that if we could have a black ink as
> dark as the Epson OEM black dye ink, ink jet B&W prints would rival
> traditional silver prints and perhaps, surpass them.
>
> Our "chosen medium" need not be limited to the subdued inkjet look.  We
> should be able to dial in any look possible though skill, and choice of
> paper and ink--in the ideal world.
>
> -Bruce
>
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