Paul, Very good points. The distribution of density values per my Stouffer Calibrated Table are.... Step21= 3.06 Step20= 2.91 Step19= 2.76 Step18= 2.61 Step17= 2.47 Step16= 2.32 Step15= 2.17 Step14= 2.02 Step13= 1.87 Step12= 1.72 Step11= 1.56 Step10= 1.40 Step 9 = 1.25 Step 8 = 1.10 Step 7 = .94 Step 6 = .79 Step 5 = .64 Step 4 = .49 Step 3 = .34 Step 2 = .19 Step 1 = .04 Now obviously this is a transmission strip and there is no way we will get a density range of 3.02 with ink on paper! But assuming we are getting a DR of 0 to 1.72 then each step should be uniform in difference. I think that your curves tend to do this, but the Piezo software does not. In platinum printing we get a DR of 1.8 for a normal platinum print. A normal silver print has a DR of approximately 1.2. I never checked the DR of a Piezo Print. Perhaps you can read that on your densitimeter and see what you get. I believe it will be close to platinum or possible exceed it. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> To: "DigitalB&WPrint" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 11:47 AM Subject: [Digital BW] What is "linear" -- was For Della On Shadows > Mike, > > You wrote, in part: > > >In an ideal world, ... I want software that produces a linear > >distribution of tones. ... > > This may sound like a silly or loaded question, but it really is not. > > What is a "linear" distributing of tones? > > I essentially copied the average Piezo output in terms of what the "50%" > density should be because I wanted to be able to use either output > approach -- Piezo or variable-tone -- for the same file. However, it's hard > to know how that 50% point or gamma was arrived at or what it "should" be. > > If someone has a good theoretical explanation of how Cone came up with his > "50%" value/gamma setting, I'd sure like to hear it. > > This is the chart I came up with that seemed to match the "gamma" setting > that Piezo uses and that I, therefore, use for the curves I do. > > The RGB is close to AdobeRGB (now), using the 0-255 scale. The black is > about what I get with the 3000 using VM black and Back Lit film media type, > printed on EAM. This figure can be up to 1.70, depending on what mood the > printer is in that day. The white (0%) point is for new EAM. The density > readings are "visual" density as read by the X-Rite Digital Swatchbook. > > % RGB Density > ___ ___ _____ > > 100% = 0 = 1.68 > 95% = 12 = 1.53 > 90% = 25 = 1.38 > 85% = 38 = 1.25 > 80% = 51 = 1.13 > 75% = 64 = 1.03 > 70% = 77 = .93 > 65% = 90 = .84 > 60% = 102 = .76 > 55% = 115 = .68 > 50% = 128 = .61 > 45% = 141 = .54 > 40% = 154 = .47 > 35% = 165 = .41 > 30% = 178 = .35 > 25% = 191 = .29 > 20% = 204 = .24 > 15% = 217 = .19 > 10% = 229 = .14 > 5% = 242 = .09 > 0% = 255 = .04 (EAM) > > Paul > http://www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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Re: [Digital BW] What is "linear" -- was For Della On Shadows
2002-03-24 by Michael Kravit
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