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RE: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range Definitions and Print Tones

2002-03-27 by lrryr@attbi.com

Hi Austin,

Your right about all this of course, but I dont think 
it's going to change what people mean when they use the 
term. I guess I'm used to it, in my industry there are 
several definitions of snr, all different from the 
textbook version. Most of the time when someone uses 
that term with me it's to tell me that something is good 
or bad, and I dont need to know more than that. When the 
situation warrants it I'll ask very specific questions 
to be sure I'm getting the right info. And, yes, over 
the years I've been burned a few times because of the 
ambiguity when I wasnt careful enough. Same thing 
applies here, except for right now, because you've 
diligently put out all this info and explanation, but in 
a week or so all that will be forgotten. Just my 2 cents.

Larry
> > Thanks Martin,
> >
> > Bottom line to me is that when someone here (except for Austin,
> > because he's
> > made it completely clear what he means by the term) or elsewhere says
> > 'dynamic range' to me in reference to inkjet printing I will
> > (safely) assume
> > they are talking about the range of paper base to max black, whether it's
> > technically correct or not. And, furthermore, that usage will be more than
> > adequate for conveying the thoughts and ideas under discussion the great
> > majority of the time.
> >
> > Larry
> 
> Hi Larry,
> 
> Yes, but Martin's explanation and understanding are incorrect.  Taking two
> measurements and subtracting them gives you a STATIC range, NOT a DYNAMIC
> range.  Using the term dynamic range as Martin has, and you state above is
> simply incorrect.  Why NOT use the correct term "density range"?
> 
> As has been shown, you can have a very high density range (a high black
> value on a very white paper, with no intermediate tones) and that has a very
> LOW dynamic range, because there are no tones in-between.  Don't let this
> simple concept slip by...it's important.
> 
> Austin
> 
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