Nicholas, there are also 5 different MIS black inks to confuse you even more..... Jerry Nicholas Hartmann wrote: > >> 2) In addition to the dots, the VM set displays what I can only call > >> "posterization": areas that, on the screen, show subtle variations in tone, > >> are rendered on paper as comparatively large patches of a single tone. > > >What printer are you using again? > > An 1160, same as yours. > > >I think something must be off in your workflow. I have had times where I got > >this posterization in my prints, and I'm trying hard to remember what was > >the fix, but it was something in my workflow, like a proper driver setting. > >Try printing a 21 step grayscale. All your steps should separate distinctly. > >The system is capable of better results than you are getting! My VT system > >handles the "Piezo challenge" test and yours should too. > > It's very possible that something is cockeyed in either software or > hardware. I printed using exactly the (very simple) workflow specified by > Paul Roark: convert from grayscale to RGB, load one of the VT curves, watch > the image go all red, then print in color at 1440 dpi. For what it's worth, > I have noticed the same partial posterizing and dots when printing > grayscale as color using the native Epson driver (without RGB conversion or > colorizing curves). I don't think there's anything functionally wrong with > the printer: nozzle checks are now perfect, and my alignment is within one > digit of standard. Maybe MIS got the inks mixed up? I was ultra-careful to > fill the right inks into the right cartridge chambers. > > >But do double check everything with your MIS VT setup, and make sure you've > >got the latest curves for your printer. > > How late is latest? And do my RGB settings make any difference? All the > color aspects of Photoshop and digital printing make my brain hurt, so I > just convert from grayscale to RGB without worrying about _which_ > particular RGB. > > Unless of course you just really > >like that gritty look. > > Not gritty, but with grain as an element of the image: think of biting into > a not-quite-ripe pear... > > Why did you go to the black-only approach over > >printing grayscale with all the color inks in the first place? > > Because that's _really_ funny-looking: not just posterization, but the > presence of all that color (at the limit of perception, admittedly) in what > purports to be a B&W image, AND the prospect that each one of those colors > will fade and color-shift in different directions at different rates, gave > me an instant headache. > > You mentioned Generations ink in passing: is it your experience that the > Generations black is visibly darker than the MIS black? > > Best, > > -- Nick > > NICHOLAS HARTMANN +1 (414) 271-4890 > 611 N. Broadway, Suite 509 fax: +1 (414) 271-4892 > Milwaukee, WI 53202, USA polyglot@... > > Technical and scientific translator: German and French -> English > > > Please visit the Group Homepage often and check the resources their regularly. The page can be found at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [Digital BW] More quadtone experiences
2001-08-22 by Jerry Olson
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