Digital BW, The Print

Bo,

Your English is good enough that I can follow your thoughts, so it is
sufficient. Thank you for the extra effort it must take to put your thoughts
into another language.

While I suffer from a compulsive obsession over having the proper equipment
and materials for printing, in other areas it does not matter so much to me.
Everyone should do the best they can with the equipment and materials they
like and can afford. The people I have seen make the most progress with
digital printing, or traditional photography, were the ones who pick
materials and tools stuck with them. Not like me trying everything. Art is
not about the tools you use.

My dog barks at me if I spend too much time on the computer. He is very
smart.

Where in Sweden are you? My wife's parents came Sweden in the 1920's. We
make Julgl\ufffdgg every Christmas to keep us warm here in California although it
is hard to find real Swedish aquavite. No lutfisk though.

Martin Wesley

P.S. I am sorry to hear that MacDonald's has entered your country.


----- Original Message -----
From: "sm7bxd" <sm7bxd@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] The 7 Truths of Digital Printing!


Post scriptum to the inlays about English and best methods!!
Satir???

I'm an amateur - heavy one.....
I have friends living on photographing....
We talk to each other......

WE agree on that the best photoes was not of the best qulity
ones, are NOT made by the best cameras or papers and etc etc etc....

1/ The photoes has of good composition
2/ The amateur/pro used his material with his scill
   and know how about "that film" "that paper" "his longed
   earned experimenting with it etc etc.
3/ He didn't necesserely had that 2000$ tripoid with him/her
   at that very moment
4/ The chemical used was regular!
5/ His heart was in it.....
6/ He was there - or he, better knew - to be THERE!
7/ He often had his thumb in the middle of his hand - but he knew
   that!
8/ The grain was VISIBLE . ...HUUUH....what a pitty....
9/ My comment - the grain DID ENHANCE the "picture"
10/ Their eqipment was not "the best".
11/ Some of them got prices her in Sweden for "best that..." and
    best of "this" etc.
12/ They are still using lenses and cameras that some of us would't
    touch  - but they know their limits!!!
13/ Some of them went - as "classics" here in Sweden.
14/ Their "souping" had shocked You.
15/ They wouldn't touch a colorfilm...
16/ Some of them are poor......but happy... giving a d--n...
    but very respected....
17/ They are both amateurs and pros!
etc etc...

To You starting "picturing" - give a "d--n"!!

AND they don't know a world of English more from that coming from
their TV-sets looking at Humphrey Bogart films like "Casablanca"

Telling them about Epson - Quad - Computers - they don't listen -
they apologize and go for the darkroom to get some pease!

I use quad and expensive things - they don't know the
word "drumscan" - however THEY still manage.

I love my friends - this is a contribute to my fellows - It's me being
crazy - I love new things - but has never gotten the reputation my
fellows have - using old fasion methods.

So - I keep strugling - with this new things...
However my friends and fellows say they love my "pictures" even after
40 years.......even if they say "how did you manage that light" -
Photoshop of cause -- "Whats that??"

WE are getting old.....

I don't know if quality is "drumscan" that and that and this -
I think it's one word "PRESENST TENSE FORM" and "BEING THERE" and
BEING YOURSELF" - giving a damn about things just knowing the limits
of what we have as equipment.

They are crazy????

Is Sweden 75 years back of everything conserning Photo?

I don't think so!

How shall I help them going the "Piezo" - And thev "QUAD" way....

This is said - as a thought - to the previous inlays in this thread.
Yes I agree we ought to learn pure English at first - and then sent
to hospital for using old cameras and darkrooms ----

They could have a "Macdonalds Hamburger" in front of their two screen
computers making "Quads".

How can I help them?

Please - just ironics about my friends - I'll try to show them
a Hahnem\ufffdlle paper this evening and my setup...

Huuh...

I don't think they will be interested......

I fully agree with the inlays here ... but...

Bo Wrangborg
Sweden

/Hasselblad, Minolta Dual Scan Multi PRO, Three 1290(80)
the whole house full of B/W negatives - a corner for my friends
and a still burning interest for the "picture".
And of cause I almost forgot - four children, a wife and a big Dog!
The Dog do understand me! He sleeps under the computer!/